Signature Line and Authority -- RE: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 79, Issue 35
Steve Parker
sparker at abccompuserve.com
Thu Aug 26 06:37:33 PDT 2010
Ya'l just have too much fun on this forum!
I agree with most of what has been said on this topic. I'd have a hard time
following this policy. In fact, I always had a hard time following INANE
directives and memos! Now independent 20 years, I get to listen to and
follow ALL of the insanity espoused by my clients, although there are many I
can ignore, some I can influence, and a few I just have to put up with if I
want to work for them.
And I agree with the insanity of Politics these days as well, that while I
cannot align myself with the Democrats (ever) it is difficult to support the
spineless leadership demonstrated by many Republicans, and the Republican
Party as a whole. You'll have to guess what I do in the voting booth!
Steve Parker
ABC Computing Services
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1. RE: abusive signature block (John Esak)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:27:24 -0400
From: "John Esak" <john at valar.com>
Subject: RE: abusive signature block
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Wall, I realize it is nothing to judge standards by... But Outlook does NOT
work that way. Signatures (or what they call a signature ) only pops into
New messages being sent. A reply will not pop them up, just the original
message and the ">quoting" setup previously.
Now, maybe other MUA's consider signatures something that gets appended
*after* the user presses SEND... As must be the case with the MrMailman
software of this forum. It appends the Forum stuff... You never see it.
Outlook Prepends the signature on a blank page and you get to keep it,
modify it, push it up or down... Lose it, etc.
The only reason I bring this up, is if George uses this type of software, he
could easily just dump the large signature when he is sending to the forum
and let it ride for all else. I don't think his boss would mind this...
He's not doing "business" with messag4es sent here. For that matter, how
many of us actually *have* a personal email address and a business email
address? Most of us use just one to cover it all, and yes, I know this is
probably not the best way to do things. I'm just saying it works out that
way. Could you imagine Bill not using Bill at celestial.com or Tom not using
Tom at microlite.com for personal emailing. What the heck would personal
emailing be anyway.
Oh wait, you mean that porn stuff I get late at night through my yahoo
acc0ount??
... Never mind ... (said in his best Rosanne Rosanadana voice... :-)
John
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> From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.co
m] On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre A. Radley
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:51 AM
> To: FilePro Mailing List
> Subject: Re: abusive signature block
>
> John Esak propounded (on Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:37:35AM -0400):
> | Don't signatures only pop up on outgoing original mail...
> Not on replies...
>
> I think if I really twisted and contorted and strained, I
> could configure
> some such behavior for mutt, but other than that I've never
> heard of an
> MUA that didn't append one's defined signature for every message.
>
> --
> JP
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:01:57 -0700
From: Bill Campbell <bill at celestial.com>
Subject: Re: abusive signature block
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010, John Esak wrote:
>Wall, I realize it is nothing to judge standards by... But Outlook does NOT
>work that way. Signatures (or what they call a signature ) only pops into
>New messages being sent. A reply will not pop them up, just the original
>message and the ">quoting" setup previously.
My guess is that the legalese is inserted by the outgoing MTA,
whatever that may be. As Mark said, this borders on insane, but
then so do many things brought about abuses in the so-called
Justice System in the U.S. where we have far too many Land Sharks.
When this thread started, I thought it might be somebody
complaining about my signature quotes. FWIW, I got a huge laugh
when one of JP's associates thought I am a Democrat based on
seeing my sigs (now if they meant a Jeffersonian Democrat, that's
not far off). Then again, I'm not a Republican either.
Bill
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without the roar of its many waters. -- Frederick Douglass
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:57:54 -0400
From: Fairlight <fairlite at fairlite.com>
Subject: Re: abusive signature block
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
Message-ID: <20100826005753.A9747 at iglou.com>
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When you have your own domain, with the right setup (either decent hosting,
or your own system), you have unlimited addresses, as God intended. :)
If not, that's what GMail is for. I don't even need them and I have three
GMail accounts. Well, I need one for Google Voice and a few other apps I
use there. But I don't need the other two luxury ones I rarely use.
I don't think the problem is technical. We're probably beating a dead
horse on that count.
I think the problem is that people don't/won't/can't stand up to inane
policies made by utterly clue-challenged people in positions of too much
authority for their mental capacities, and just say, "No." In this
economy, I suppose I understand it, if it means someone's job to disobey
the policy. But in normal circumstances in a sane economy, were I employed
full-time by someone else like I was 15 years ago, I'd be the first in line
to just "accidentally" happen to delete the damned things -every single
time-. You know...cos I don't have -any- issues with authority. :)
So if it's company policy to keep it in, it might be company policy that
at work someone can't use GMail. Either way, I think it comes down to a
choice whether to obey someone's whim, not a technical ability to do or not
do so if one actually wanted.
Incidentally...pr0n is good any time of day, not just at night. In
fact...I think a new slogan is in order: "Pr0n: It's not just for dessert
anymore!"
mark->
Y'all catch dis heeyah? John Esak been jivin' 'bout like:
> Wall, I realize it is nothing to judge standards by... But Outlook does
NOT
> work that way. Signatures (or what they call a signature ) only pops into
> New messages being sent. A reply will not pop them up, just the original
> message and the ">quoting" setup previously.
>
> Now, maybe other MUA's consider signatures something that gets appended
> *after* the user presses SEND... As must be the case with the MrMailman
> software of this forum. It appends the Forum stuff... You never see it.
>
> Outlook Prepends the signature on a blank page and you get to keep it,
> modify it, push it up or down... Lose it, etc.
>
> The only reason I bring this up, is if George uses this type of software,
he
> could easily just dump the large signature when he is sending to the forum
> and let it ride for all else. I don't think his boss would mind this...
> He's not doing "business" with messag4es sent here. For that matter, how
> many of us actually *have* a personal email address and a business email
> address? Most of us use just one to cover it all, and yes, I know this is
> probably not the best way to do things. I'm just saying it works out that
> way. Could you imagine Bill not using Bill at celestial.com or Tom not using
> Tom at microlite.com for personal emailing. What the heck would personal
> emailing be anyway.
>
> Oh wait, you mean that porn stuff I get late at night through my yahoo
> acc0ount??
>
> ... Never mind ... (said in his best Rosanne Rosanadana voice... :-)
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