OT screen colors in "vim" don't even try....

[Bill Campbell]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2009, Fairlight wrote:
>Okay, -not- trying to insult you, John.  But have you tried:
>
>:syntax off

This is my default.  I only turn syntax on when trying to figure out where
I left off a closing quote character.

>Works for me when I use it.
>
>I agree that vim hasn't been updated in ages, but I don't have a problem
>with that.  Better than something like Word, where they trot out a new
>version with features hardly anyone needs, all in the name of revenue
>stream.

About the only thing I use in vim that isn't in basic vi is split screens
which I use extensively.  It has a metric tonne of features that I might
use if I ever took time to RTFM, but don't know what I'm missing.

>FWIW, I think vim is decent, although it was starting to edge up on EMACS
>in terms of bloat.  I think if they'd rolled elisp in there, it might have
>rivaled it, actually.  I'm kind of glad they stopped where they did.

I must be emacs challenged as I have tried several times to learn it, but
always end up quitting in frustration with all its multi-key garbage.

I keep looking for a good XML editor, but coming back to vim as it's easy
enough to just type in tags, perhaps with some abbreviations to speed
things up.

>I dunno, it's the only editor I use anymore, and I've not had problems
>with it.  I haven't fired up EMACS in probably three years or better, and
>that was to edit a binary file, for which it's better suited.  And it's
>my editor of choice in Windows (gvim), as I tend not to like Wordpad, and
>Notepad just plain sucks.  I have OpenOffice.org, but it's not worth firing
>up that much bloat just to work on code--it's not really meant as a code
>editor.

I use NeoOffice (OpenOffice.org with native OS X interface) for spread
sheets, using a mysql database connector quite frequently.  Other than
that, I use it primarily when somebody is rude enough to send me
proprietary binary files from the Redmond Raptor that I need to turn into
something useful.

>I can't really say anything about Bram.  Never had to deal with him.
>
>I remember when Bill Vermillion was still alive, he was using vanilla vi
>until the end.  He disliked vim.  So you're in good company, there.  :)
>Just don't jump on the bandwagon, man.  Bad enough we've already lost
>Vermillion and Stockler.  Dare I say the fP community is dying
>off...literally?  </macabre>

There are some people who use /bin/sh as their interactive shell.  I don't
type well enough to deal with a shell that does not have command history.
I used csh on Xenix until ksh became available about 20 years ago, and
switched to bash after figuring out that I could use ``alias r="fc -s" ''
to get the same repeat capabilities of ksh.  I like the bash's tab
expansion far better than ksh's.

Bill
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