filepro to sql

[Tyler]

I'm sorry you took offense Ryan, it wasn't meant as such.  To me your
posting sounded like your software was something you were playing around
with and just tossed it out there for people to have a look see and see if
there was real interest in such before putting serious dev time into it.

Mark's post kind of casts doubt on your statement that the list is for
mature professionals tho in my book.  As does your calling me a little
troll.

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Tyler Style
http://malthusian-solutions.com

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Ryan Powers <ryanx at indy.rr.com> wrote:

>  I am very capable of speaking for myself Tyler, and since you insist, the
> fact is that I did not care to dignify your snide remark with a response.
> This is a list for mature professionals and its pretty sad that it has come
> to this. I posted to this list for the first time in over a year and right
> away I’m insulted by a little troll.
>
>
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> ---
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> Ryan Powers
>
> Bulldog Software, Inc.
>
> http://www.bulldogsoftware.com
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> *From:* filepro-list-bounces+ryanx=indy.rr.com at lists.celestial.com[mailto:
> filepro-list-bounces+ryanx <filepro-list-bounces%2Bryanx>=indy.rr.com@
> lists.celestial.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 10:58 AM
> *To:* filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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> *Subject:* Re: filepro to sql
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:47:24 -0400
> From: Fairlight <fairlite at fairlite.com>
> Subject: Re: filepro to sql
>
> 1, Since Ryan obviously reads the list and replies to it, why not let him
> speak for himself?  Shouldn't you at least consult him first before going
> off on a flame?
>
> 2, What's with all the ad hominem attacks, anyway?  Seriously, if you want
> to talk 'professional', you're definitely not holding the moral high ground
> that way.
>
> As for the rest of your post, if you strip out the trolling and flaming
> there's very little actual content, just "sound and fury..."
>
> And I'll dare to say whatever I like, regardless of your opinion of it or
> your attempts to bully me.
>
> --
> Tyler Style
> http://malthusian-solutions.com
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>
> The honourable and venerable Tyler spoke thus:
> > Oi vey, get off your high horse there Mark.
>
> Anyone that's spent any time on this lists knows that even if I -were- on a
> high horse, you'll have to being me pretty solid proof that I am in the
> wrong before I'll back down.  If you don't know that, you don't read
> enough.  And it would take someone I actually respect to point it out--a
> category from which you excluded yourself with your flip comment about
> Ryan's product.
>
> > For one, it's hardly your place to be insulted - you're not the author.
>
> On the contrary.  Many of us have a lot of colleagues and friends on this
> list.  I count Ryan as both.  Someone that essentially disrespects a friend
> of mine by saying something that may unjustly compromise his chances of
> success with a venture will be standing in a very unenviable place.
>
> > For two, in his own words: "This is just something that I spent some time
> > on and wanted to put out there to see if it would be a useful product".
> > My comment was hardly derisive!  It was just an acknowledgment of what
> > he'd said.  Sheesh!
>
> Yeah, he's spent time on it.  A good deal of it.  I know, as I've talked to
> him regularly as he's been working on it.  As for the second half, coding
> for this community on spec is pretty much -exactly- as he described it:
> putting it out there to see if it's useful [enough for people to pry open
> their wallets].  The part in brackets was the implied, if unspoken part
> that Ryan should have added.  This community is a very hard sell, as most
> of us have learned the hard way.
>
> So while Ryan is not necessarily as expository as I am, I know -exactly-
> what he was saying.
>
> You, OTOH, dared to extrapolate his explanation into, "I thot it was a
> serious tool beta kind of thing." [sic]
>
> 1) Learn to accurately represent someone else's work.  While "serious tool
> beta kind of thing" is not only a horribly inept attempt at describing
> something, it's also a vastly inaccurate extrapolated depiction of Ryan's
> product (sight unseen by you, no less), with a demeaning and pretty
> negative impact.
>
> 2) Learn to spell.  I thought you were halfway literate, but I could have
> been incorrect.  Usually correcting someone's spelling in a public forum is
> ridiculously immature, but my God, I've seen more literate displays from
> twelve year olds playing Team Fortress 2, so it's rather justified in this
> case, considering you're commenting in a professional forum about someone
> else's professional work.
>
> Anyone that knows business -at all- knows that perception counts for a
> lot.  To be careless with one's words and even "accidentally" slam both
> someone's product before it even hits the shelf is not only disrespectful,
> it's potentially harming their business, and therefore their livelihood.
> You're slanting the perception of the product before it can even represent
> itself on the shelf of in the workplace.  If you'd even seen it in action,
> you -might- have grounds to open your mouth, but you didn't, TTBOMK.
>
> > -- Tyler Style http://malthusian-solutions.com
>
> For someone whose last name is Style, one would think you would actually
> display some.  Or at least some tact.  I thought I had the market cornered
> on that front, but I'm (sort of) glad to see I have competition.
>
> Unless you yourself are putting forth a superior offering for public
> consumption, I don't see any call for you to insinuate anything about
> someone else's, or even reinforce something you (incorrectly) perceived as
> a negative connotation.
>
> As for your assertion that I have no right to be offended--bollocks.  You
> don't get to call that simply because it's inconvenient to you for me to
> point out what a git you've made of yourself.  Ryan's not only a colleague,
> he's a close personal friend.  I stand by my friends, whether they need me
> to or not.
>
> Now...my advice for you before this escalates into an all-out argument (if
> you think it already has, you -really- don't read enough) would be to take
> a deep breath, and walk away from this before you look more the fool than
> you already do.  There's no way in hell you have the higher moral ground
> at this point to win this one, so you may as well just shut it now and cut
> your losses--especially when I'm even less in the mood to suffer fools
> lightly than usual.
>
> mark->
>
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