OT: Re: quad cores vs not.
Fairlight
fairlite at fairlite.com
Thu Mar 20 16:35:18 PDT 2008
Walter brought up quad cores in another thread...
The reality is that, available or not, quad cores are almost useless
outside of a strict server environment. It's not like they're rubbish, but
there are -very- few things that will utilise all the cores on a desktop
system:
* CAD - Some probably will
* Games - Mixed. Many single-core games (even current releases--Tabula
Rasa only used one of two cores), some dual core. Most won't make use
of more than two.
* Applications - Depends how threaded an application is. Varies.
* Video Editing/Transcoding - One of the most CPU-intensive tasks anyone
will be doing on a desktop, editors are often multithreaded and make use
of multiple cores, but the -important- part, the codec, is often a single
core application, non-multithreaded. The only multithreaded codec I can
confirm is WM9. Even XViD is singlethreaded. The codec is honestly
where you want firepower to count.
* BOINC infrastructure based applications - Will make use of as much as you
can toss at them. Great if you spend money to support seti at home and all
the other @home projects, but otherwise not so impressive.
* Graphics - SOME graphics renderers will make use of multiple cores. Some
do it in a limited fashion. Also highly processor intensive, yet
programs like Bryce don't even make use of a second core.
The reality is that you're better off with something like a Wolfdale dual
core than a quad core at this point in time, and probably for several years
(3-5 would be my guess). You're better off throwing 3GHz dual core at
something where at least most of it will be used, than you are throwing
4 cores or more at a lower clocking at things that won't use it. Unless
you multitask, it's a LOT of expensive wasted firepower. You can actually
outperform a quad core with a dual core in many cases. I considered going
quad (Q6600) and was advised that the E8400 dual was a better bet at this
point in time, especially for my uses.
I'd recommend the Intel E8400 3GHz Wolfdale in a heartbeat. They're
currently in short supply due to popularity, but if you can get one,
they're -great-. There's one Wolfdale that's 0.166 GHz faster for like
$120 more--totally not worth it.
I also recommend going for chips with reduced die sizes. That was one
advantage of the Wolfdale series, was the reduced die size. That
translates to a LOT cooler chip and less power consumption. I couldn't
give much of a damn about power consumption, but heat == death, so cooler
is better. This thing runs ridiculously cool. In fact, the memory
controller hub on the mainboard runs hotter than the chip itself, as does
the I/O controller.
I was told that Intel almost religiously releases every 11 months. They'll
release one line with increased performance, then 11 months later they'll
release the same line with -slight- improvements but mostly just a reduced
die size. Those are the ones to get.
mark->
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