OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)
John Esak
john.esak at 21appr.com
Mon Jul 28 21:38:39 PDT 2008
It is incredibly faster on Linux than SCO Open Server 5....
The costs for cross platform changeover are minimal.... to a mzximum of $995
I think. Regardless of uesers... don't quote me, but I think that is it.
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scooter6 at gmail.com [mailto:scooter6 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:12 AM
> To: john.esak at 21appr.com
> Subject: Re: OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)
>
> Oh okay...lol.........I was just checking......
>
> Any idea what costs are involved on the filePro side to convert from a
> SCO license to
> this Linux one? I was told that things like indexing larger files, etc
> was much faster
> on Linux vs. SCO..........does anyone know this to be true?
>
> I'm saying...I was told it was INCREDIBLY faster on Linux version vs.
> SCO...if that's
> true, then I need to do some testing, etc on some things...
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> On 7/28/08, John Esak <john.esak at 21appr.com> wrote:
>
> No, no,
> Sorry if I gave that impression.l we bought a Linux cross platform
> upgrade
> from our old SCO box. Which is out of service now.
>
> John
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scooter6 at gmail.com [mailto:scooter6 at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:17 PM
> > To: john.esak at 21appr.com
> > Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Subject: Re: OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)
> >
> > One quick question for clarification...........
> >
> > Am I understanding that you installed filePro on a ubuntu box
> using
> > filePro that
> > is for SCO OpenServer??
> >
> > Just trying to clarify....
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > On 7/25/08, John Esak <john.esak at 21appr.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Okay, I know I'll take the flack for using this great forum
> to ask
> > a
> > question that seems non-filePro related.... I'll ask uit at
> the end
> > of the
> > next couple paragraphs.... let me try and attach some
> filePro basis
> > for the
> > question though... :-) it will be lame, but hopefully
> informative??
> >
> > Okay, so OT:, and just in case anyone cares. We have just
> put a
> > great
> > filePro app on "ubuntu" Linux. This is a Debian derivative.
> > Everyone knows
> > I have felt Linux to be not ready for prime time for a long
> time
> > now...
> > Well, releases like this latest ubuntu will change not only
> my mind,
> > but the
> > minds of lots of folks who think like me. I mean for the
> Linux
> > crowd to
> > have been working for so many years and still have not come
> up with
> > a decent
> > "color" setup a la "setcolor" from SCO... it is just crazy.
> >
> > Okay, the ubuntu, you download a file, burn it to a CD, use
> the CD
> > on just
> > about any P"C (server, etc.)... it asks you about 4
> questions like
> > "do you
> > want to use the whole disk for Linux?" even if it is a
> multi-disk
> > FAID5
> > that you want, and so forth.... the simple questions done in
> > seconds, the
> > thing loads itself completely on your box and it's ready to
> go.
> > From this
> > point you can get or (unget) any package you want with a
> simple
> > command
> > like:
> >
> > Sudo apt-get install package-name
> >
> > And
> >
> > Sudo apt-get remove package-name
> >
> > It's just too easy... and the way it should be ...
> finally... no
> > more
> > worries about dependencies, "making" programs, libraries,
> etc., etc.
> > It
> > just deals with all that goop for you. Can you tell I like
> this
> > Linux? :-)
> >
> > The bottom line is that filePro works dead easy on this box.
> (you
> > really
> > just need to copy over the "ansi" terminfo from your working
> SCO
> > box... and
> > the ansi termcap defs from it as well. And if you use
> FacetWin,
> > make sure
> > that "inetd" is working properly. (an apt-get package thing
> only.)
> > If you
> > use Bob's anzio product to get to the Linux server, I don't
> think
> > much of
> > anything would be required. Printing just works out of the
> box...
> > even
> > local printing (PFPT=ON). You can even use the "useradd"
> command to
> > duplicate your old Unix users, ID, directory and all.
> >
> > Just a point of info for all you folks who don't have any
> other easy
> > means
> > of hearing stuff like this. You can load a server version
> of
> > ubuntu, or
> > just load the desktop version and add the server things you
> need,
> > same
> > difference... there are other versions of Linux that people
> like,
> > Redhat,
> > suse, etc. I may scope some of these out at some time,
> sure, but
> > this was
> > an easy, really easy way to migrate a SCO/filePro system...
> and
> > months from
> > now you will be hearing about ubuntu working well in many
> > installations,
> > just like you heard the same about suse for while and
> others.
> > Funny, but I
> > learned that my PDA (which is the coolest Linux based thing
> in the
> > world) is
> > a Debian system... when I get to the console on this device
> through
> > ssh, all
> > the same commands as used on ubuntu work here. Very cool.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now for my question.
> >
> > The ls command does a lot of color changing for lots of
> different
> > reasons.... directories, executable files, etc. It is
> beyond
> > annoying... If
> > you have a black background like me... it is IMPOSSIBLE.
> >
> > I have gotten the great help from various folks and made the
> "ls"
> > command to
> > work like the "l" command I know and love (skipping the
> color thing)
> > by
> > doing this in my .profile....
> >
> > type ls | grep -q alias && { unalias ls; echo unalias ls; }
> > l () { ls -al $*; }
> > lf () { ls -aCF $*; }
> >
> > It stops the program from doing any color shifting....
> great. Now,
> > I have
> > to stop "vi" from doing it as well. On this Linux, "vim" is
> the
> > choice for
> > vi... it is an improved vi and great for editing any kind of
> file
> > including
> > binary files and things with unprintable characters like pcl
> files.
> > So,
> > anyway, I start off by doing this in the .profile.
> >
> > alias vi="vim -T ansi $* -u /root/.vimrc"
> >
> > This gets me using vim and pointing to an initialization
> file for it
> > ".vimrc". so what do I put in this .vimrc to STOP the damn
> color
> > shifting
> > in vi????? I have read the info about "syntax" and tried
> >
> > Syntax off
> > Set syntax=off
> > Set syntax off
> >
> > And every other variation... I won't bore you with the
> extent I've
> > gone to
> > trying to get color shifting to not happen. There is a
> setting
> > Se
> > background=dark
> >
> > Which promised to be good for my situation... no deal.. You
> still
> > get the
> > whackiest, craziest changes of colors while in vi or
> entering or
> > leaving
> > it.... usually ending up in blue on red.... blue on red!!!
> This is
> > like
> > Navy eye tests.... impossible.
> >
> > I have looked all through the "dircolors" command... but
> this
> > doesn't seem
> > to apply, and/or doesn't work.... Damn, I have waded through
> the
> > hundreds of
> > locations for vimrc... .../share/Debian/blah/blah... etc.,
> etc. and
> > made
> > changes everywhre nothing obtains. I have spent probably 4
> to 6
> > hours of
> > what I would humbly call valuable time on this stupidly
> simple
> > thing.... I
> > just want to turn a "feature" off.
> >
> > I don't want color in "vi"....
> >
> > Ultimately, I would LOVE to be able to govern the color of
> my screen
> > so I
> > could do what I so easily do on SCO, change my foreground
> and
> > background
> > based on my PFDIR... live, or dev, etc.
> >
> > Can anyone help. I'll even pay. :-) Seriously, I will pay
> your
> > consulting
> > fee to educate me about this stuff. I know, and have this
> nagging
> > belief
> > that someone is going to write... you idiot, just type:
> >
> >
> > Color off
> > A
> > T the prompt or something incredibly stupid like that.... I
> don't
> > care.
> > Send me the pain. I simply have to solve this... since I am
> doing
> > lots of
> > work on Linux these days, and particularly this Debian
> version
> > "ubuntu".
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Esak
> > 21st Century Appraisals, Inc
> > 1801 Oberlin Rd, Middletown, PA 17057
> > 717-985-0200 x 1141
> > john.esak at 21appr.com
> >
> >
> >
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