OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)

John Esak john.esak at 21appr.com
Mon Jul 28 21:38:39 PDT 2008


It is incredibly faster on Linux than SCO Open Server 5....

The costs for cross platform changeover are minimal.... to a mzximum of $995
I think.  Regardless of uesers... don't quote me, but I think that is it.


John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: scooter6 at gmail.com [mailto:scooter6 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:12 AM
> To: john.esak at 21appr.com
> Subject: Re: OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)
> 
>   Oh okay...lol.........I was just checking......
> 
>   Any idea what costs are involved on the filePro side to convert from a
> SCO license to
>   this Linux one?  I was told that things like indexing larger files, etc
> was much faster
>   on Linux vs. SCO..........does anyone know this to be true?
> 
>   I'm saying...I was told it was INCREDIBLY faster on Linux version vs.
> SCO...if that's
>   true, then I need to do some testing, etc on some things...
> 
>   Scott
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/28/08, John Esak <john.esak at 21appr.com> wrote:
> 
> 	No, no,
> 	Sorry if I gave that impression.l we bought a Linux cross platform
> upgrade
> 	from our old SCO box. Which is out of service now.
> 
> 	John
> 
> 
> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From: scooter6 at gmail.com [mailto:scooter6 at gmail.com]
> 	> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:17 PM
> 	> To: john.esak at 21appr.com
> 	> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> 	> Subject: Re: OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)
> 	>
> 	>   One quick question for clarification...........
> 	>
> 	>   Am I understanding that you installed filePro on a ubuntu box
> using
> 	> filePro that
> 	>   is for SCO OpenServer??
> 	>
> 	>   Just trying to clarify....
> 	>
> 	>   thanks
> 	>
> 	>   Scott
> 	>
> 	>
> 	> On 7/25/08, John Esak <john.esak at 21appr.com> wrote:
> 	>
> 	>       Hi,
> 	>
> 	>       Okay, I  know I'll take the flack for using this great forum
> to ask
> 	> a
> 	>       question that seems non-filePro related.... I'll ask uit at
> the end
> 	> of the
> 	>       next couple paragraphs.... let me try and attach some
> filePro basis
> 	> for the
> 	>       question though... :-)  it will be lame, but hopefully
> informative??
> 	>
> 	>       Okay, so OT:, and just in case anyone cares.  We have just
> put a
> 	> great
> 	>       filePro app on "ubuntu"  Linux. This is a Debian derivative.
> 	> Everyone knows
> 	>       I have felt Linux to be not ready for prime time for a long
> time
> 	> now...
> 	>       Well, releases like this latest ubuntu will change not only
> my mind,
> 	> but the
> 	>       minds of lots of folks who think like me.  I mean for the
> Linux
> 	> crowd to
> 	>       have been working for so many years and still have not come
> up with
> 	> a decent
> 	>       "color" setup a la "setcolor" from SCO...  it is just crazy.
> 	>
> 	>       Okay, the ubuntu, you download a file, burn it to a CD, use
> the CD
> 	> on just
> 	>       about any P"C (server, etc.)... it asks you about 4
> questions like
> 	> "do you
> 	>       want to use the whole disk for Linux?"  even if it is a
> multi-disk
> 	> FAID5
> 	>       that you want, and so forth.... the simple questions done in
> 	> seconds, the
> 	>       thing loads itself completely on your box and it's ready to
> go.
> 	> From this
> 	>       point you can get or (unget) any package you want with a
> simple
> 	> command
> 	>       like:
> 	>
> 	>       Sudo apt-get install package-name
> 	>
> 	>       And
> 	>
> 	>       Sudo apt-get remove package-name
> 	>
> 	>       It's just too easy... and the way it should be ...
> finally...  no
> 	> more
> 	>       worries about dependencies, "making" programs, libraries,
> etc., etc.
> 	> It
> 	>       just deals with all that goop for you.  Can you tell I like
> this
> 	> Linux?  :-)
> 	>
> 	>       The bottom line is that filePro works dead easy on this box.
> (you
> 	> really
> 	>       just need to copy over the "ansi" terminfo from your working
> SCO
> 	> box... and
> 	>       the ansi termcap defs from it as well.  And if you use
> FacetWin,
> 	> make sure
> 	>       that "inetd" is working properly. (an apt-get package thing
> only.)
> 	> If you
> 	>       use Bob's anzio product to get to the Linux server, I don't
> think
> 	> much of
> 	>       anything would be required.  Printing just works out of the
> box...
> 	> even
> 	>       local printing (PFPT=ON).  You can even use the "useradd"
> command to
> 	>       duplicate your old Unix users, ID, directory and all.
> 	>
> 	>       Just a point of info for all you folks who don't have any
> other easy
> 	> means
> 	>       of hearing stuff like this.  You can load a server version
> of
> 	> ubuntu, or
> 	>       just load the desktop version and add the server things you
> need,
> 	> same
> 	>       difference...  there are other versions of Linux that people
> like,
> 	> Redhat,
> 	>       suse, etc.  I may scope some of these out at some time,
> sure, but
> 	> this was
> 	>       an easy, really easy way to migrate a SCO/filePro system...
> and
> 	> months from
> 	>       now you will be hearing about ubuntu working well in many
> 	> installations,
> 	>       just like you heard the same about suse for while and
> others.
> 	> Funny, but I
> 	>       learned that my PDA (which is the coolest Linux based thing
> in the
> 	> world) is
> 	>       a Debian system... when I get to the console on this device
> through
> 	> ssh, all
> 	>       the same commands as used on ubuntu work here.  Very cool.
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>       Now for my question.
> 	>
> 	>       The ls command does a lot of color changing for lots of
> different
> 	>       reasons.... directories, executable files, etc.  It is
> beyond
> 	> annoying... If
> 	>       you have a black background like me... it is IMPOSSIBLE.
> 	>
> 	>       I have gotten the great help from various folks and made the
> "ls"
> 	> command to
> 	>       work like the "l" command I know and love (skipping the
> color thing)
> 	> by
> 	>       doing this in my .profile....
> 	>
> 	>       type ls | grep -q alias && { unalias ls; echo unalias ls; }
> 	>       l ()  { ls -al $*; }
> 	>       lf () { ls -aCF $*; }
> 	>
> 	>       It stops the program from doing any color shifting....
> great.  Now,
> 	> I have
> 	>       to stop "vi" from doing it as well.  On this Linux, "vim" is
> the
> 	> choice for
> 	>       vi... it is an improved vi and great for editing any kind of
> file
> 	> including
> 	>       binary files and things with unprintable characters like pcl
> files.
> 	> So,
> 	>       anyway, I start off by doing this in the .profile.
> 	>
> 	>       alias vi="vim -T ansi $* -u /root/.vimrc"
> 	>
> 	>       This gets me using vim and pointing to an initialization
> file for it
> 	>       ".vimrc".  so what do I put in this .vimrc to STOP the damn
> color
> 	> shifting
> 	>       in vi?????  I have read the info about "syntax"  and tried
> 	>
> 	>       Syntax off
> 	>       Set syntax=off
> 	>       Set syntax off
> 	>
> 	>       And every other variation... I won't bore you with the
> extent I've
> 	> gone to
> 	>       trying to get color shifting to not happen.  There is a
> setting
> 	>       Se
> 	>       background=dark
> 	>
> 	>       Which promised to be good for my situation... no deal.. You
> still
> 	> get the
> 	>       whackiest, craziest changes of colors while in vi or
> entering or
> 	> leaving
> 	>       it.... usually ending up in blue on red....  blue on red!!!
> This is
> 	> like
> 	>       Navy eye tests.... impossible.
> 	>
> 	>       I have looked all through the "dircolors" command... but
> this
> 	> doesn't seem
> 	>       to apply, and/or doesn't work.... Damn, I have waded through
> the
> 	> hundreds of
> 	>       locations for vimrc... .../share/Debian/blah/blah... etc.,
> etc. and
> 	> made
> 	>       changes everywhre nothing obtains.  I have spent probably 4
> to 6
> 	> hours of
> 	>       what I would humbly call valuable time on this stupidly
> simple
> 	> thing.... I
> 	>       just want to turn a "feature" off.
> 	>
> 	>       I don't want color in "vi"....
> 	>
> 	>       Ultimately, I would LOVE to be able to govern the color of
> my screen
> 	> so I
> 	>       could do what I so easily do on SCO, change my foreground
> and
> 	> background
> 	>       based on my PFDIR... live, or dev, etc.
> 	>
> 	>       Can anyone help.  I'll even pay. :-)  Seriously, I will pay
> your
> 	> consulting
> 	>       fee to educate me about this stuff.  I know, and have this
> nagging
> 	> belief
> 	>       that someone is going to write... you idiot, just type:
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>       Color off
> 	>       A
> 	>       T the prompt or something incredibly stupid like that.... I
> don't
> 	> care.
> 	>       Send me the pain.  I simply have to solve this... since I am
> doing
> 	> lots of
> 	>       work on Linux these days, and particularly this Debian
> version
> 	> "ubuntu".
> 	>
> 	>       Thanks in advance.
> 	>
> 	>       John
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>       John Esak
> 	>       21st Century Appraisals, Inc
> 	>       1801 Oberlin Rd, Middletown, PA 17057
> 	>       717-985-0200 x 1141
> 	>       john.esak at 21appr.com
> 	>
> 	>
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