OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)

John Esak john.esak at 21appr.com
Mon Jul 28 20:55:06 PDT 2008


No, no,
Sorry if I gave that impression.l we bought a Linux cross platform upgrade
from our old SCO box. Which is out of service now.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: scooter6 at gmail.com [mailto:scooter6 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:17 PM
> To: john.esak at 21appr.com
> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: OT: colors for vi on Linux (Debian - ubuntu)
> 
>   One quick question for clarification...........
> 
>   Am I understanding that you installed filePro on a ubuntu box using
> filePro that
>   is for SCO OpenServer??
> 
>   Just trying to clarify....
> 
>   thanks
> 
>   Scott
> 
> 
> On 7/25/08, John Esak <john.esak at 21appr.com> wrote:
> 
> 	Hi,
> 
> 	Okay, I  know I'll take the flack for using this great forum to ask
> a
> 	question that seems non-filePro related.... I'll ask uit at the end
> of the
> 	next couple paragraphs.... let me try and attach some filePro basis
> for the
> 	question though... :-)  it will be lame, but hopefully informative??
> 
> 	Okay, so OT:, and just in case anyone cares.  We have just put a
> great
> 	filePro app on "ubuntu"  Linux. This is a Debian derivative.
> Everyone knows
> 	I have felt Linux to be not ready for prime time for a long time
> now...
> 	Well, releases like this latest ubuntu will change not only my mind,
> but the
> 	minds of lots of folks who think like me.  I mean for the Linux
> crowd to
> 	have been working for so many years and still have not come up with
> a decent
> 	"color" setup a la "setcolor" from SCO...  it is just crazy.
> 
> 	Okay, the ubuntu, you download a file, burn it to a CD, use the CD
> on just
> 	about any P"C (server, etc.)... it asks you about 4 questions like
> "do you
> 	want to use the whole disk for Linux?"  even if it is a multi-disk
> FAID5
> 	that you want, and so forth.... the simple questions done in
> seconds, the
> 	thing loads itself completely on your box and it's ready to go.
> From this
> 	point you can get or (unget) any package you want with a simple
> command
> 	like:
> 
> 	Sudo apt-get install package-name
> 
> 	And
> 
> 	Sudo apt-get remove package-name
> 
> 	It's just too easy... and the way it should be ... finally...  no
> more
> 	worries about dependencies, "making" programs, libraries, etc., etc.
> It
> 	just deals with all that goop for you.  Can you tell I like this
> Linux?  :-)
> 
> 	The bottom line is that filePro works dead easy on this box. (you
> really
> 	just need to copy over the "ansi" terminfo from your working SCO
> box... and
> 	the ansi termcap defs from it as well.  And if you use FacetWin,
> make sure
> 	that "inetd" is working properly. (an apt-get package thing only.)
> If you
> 	use Bob's anzio product to get to the Linux server, I don't think
> much of
> 	anything would be required.  Printing just works out of the box...
> even
> 	local printing (PFPT=ON).  You can even use the "useradd" command to
> 	duplicate your old Unix users, ID, directory and all.
> 
> 	Just a point of info for all you folks who don't have any other easy
> means
> 	of hearing stuff like this.  You can load a server version of
> ubuntu, or
> 	just load the desktop version and add the server things you need,
> same
> 	difference...  there are other versions of Linux that people like,
> Redhat,
> 	suse, etc.  I may scope some of these out at some time, sure, but
> this was
> 	an easy, really easy way to migrate a SCO/filePro system... and
> months from
> 	now you will be hearing about ubuntu working well in many
> installations,
> 	just like you heard the same about suse for while and others.
> Funny, but I
> 	learned that my PDA (which is the coolest Linux based thing in the
> world) is
> 	a Debian system... when I get to the console on this device through
> ssh, all
> 	the same commands as used on ubuntu work here.  Very cool.
> 
> 
> 
> 	Now for my question.
> 
> 	The ls command does a lot of color changing for lots of different
> 	reasons.... directories, executable files, etc.  It is beyond
> annoying... If
> 	you have a black background like me... it is IMPOSSIBLE.
> 
> 	I have gotten the great help from various folks and made the "ls"
> command to
> 	work like the "l" command I know and love (skipping the color thing)
> by
> 	doing this in my .profile....
> 
> 	type ls | grep -q alias && { unalias ls; echo unalias ls; }
> 	l ()  { ls -al $*; }
> 	lf () { ls -aCF $*; }
> 
> 	It stops the program from doing any color shifting.... great.  Now,
> I have
> 	to stop "vi" from doing it as well.  On this Linux, "vim" is the
> choice for
> 	vi... it is an improved vi and great for editing any kind of file
> including
> 	binary files and things with unprintable characters like pcl files.
> So,
> 	anyway, I start off by doing this in the .profile.
> 
> 	alias vi="vim -T ansi $* -u /root/.vimrc"
> 
> 	This gets me using vim and pointing to an initialization file for it
> 	".vimrc".  so what do I put in this .vimrc to STOP the damn color
> shifting
> 	in vi?????  I have read the info about "syntax"  and tried
> 
> 	Syntax off
> 	Set syntax=off
> 	Set syntax off
> 
> 	And every other variation... I won't bore you with the extent I've
> gone to
> 	trying to get color shifting to not happen.  There is a setting
> 	Se
> 	background=dark
> 
> 	Which promised to be good for my situation... no deal.. You still
> get the
> 	whackiest, craziest changes of colors while in vi or entering or
> leaving
> 	it.... usually ending up in blue on red....  blue on red!!!  This is
> like
> 	Navy eye tests.... impossible.
> 
> 	I have looked all through the "dircolors" command... but this
> doesn't seem
> 	to apply, and/or doesn't work.... Damn, I have waded through the
> hundreds of
> 	locations for vimrc... .../share/Debian/blah/blah... etc., etc. and
> made
> 	changes everywhre nothing obtains.  I have spent probably 4 to 6
> hours of
> 	what I would humbly call valuable time on this stupidly simple
> thing.... I
> 	just want to turn a "feature" off.
> 
> 	I don't want color in "vi"....
> 
> 	Ultimately, I would LOVE to be able to govern the color of my screen
> so I
> 	could do what I so easily do on SCO, change my foreground and
> background
> 	based on my PFDIR... live, or dev, etc.
> 
> 	Can anyone help.  I'll even pay. :-)  Seriously, I will pay your
> consulting
> 	fee to educate me about this stuff.  I know, and have this nagging
> belief
> 	that someone is going to write... you idiot, just type:
> 
> 
> 	Color off
> 	A
> 	T the prompt or something incredibly stupid like that.... I don't
> care.
> 	Send me the pain.  I simply have to solve this... since I am doing
> lots of
> 	work on Linux these days, and particularly this Debian version
> "ubuntu".
> 
> 	Thanks in advance.
> 
> 	John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	John Esak
> 	21st Century Appraisals, Inc
> 	1801 Oberlin Rd, Middletown, PA 17057
> 	717-985-0200 x 1141
> 	john.esak at 21appr.com
> 
> 
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