Filepro-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 39
Raymond Scheel
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: end of field marker (John Esak)
2. OT: hylafax on remote server (Enrique Arredondo)
3. Re: OT: hylafax on remote server (Jay R. Ashworth)
4. Re: OT: hylafax on remote server (Bill Campbell)
5. Re: OT: hylafax on remote server (Enrique Arredondo)
6. Re: OT: hylafax on remote server (Jose Lerebours)
7. Re: OT: hylafax on remote server (Bill Campbell)
8. Re: OT: hylafax on remote server (Jean-Pierre A. Radley)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:52:02 -0400
From: "John Esak" <john at valar.com>
Subject: RE: end of field marker
To: "'George'" <flowersoft at compuserve.com>
Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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Well, folks here would need a bunch more info to help you out. What
operating system Windows or Linux (or SCO)? Type of printer... maybe...
But, generally, the O?S has a printer subsystem that will arrange the
printer spool for you. It doesn't matter whether it is on parallel or serial
or network... this is configured when you set it up.
As to using PFOUTS this is a little confusing... yes PFOUTS is for serial
ports, but not for "printing". It is more for use with modems and file
transfers between systems, etc. I think it is only used with the OUTS
command. FilePro will not incorporate anything relating to PFOUTS when it
prints. It merely hands a job to the printer spooling system... and that
will not look at PFOUTS either. If you are on *nix, setting up the serial
port is a little configuring job you need to do... if you are on Windows,
and since you call it a COM port I'm guessing you are... it is defaulted to
a standard that most printers will use readily.
You can specify LPT1 in the Windows filePro print manager... I'm guessing
you would use COM1 or COM2, honestly, I don't remember.
There will be many people who rmember serial epsons and such and how to
manage them in filePro... probably Epsonfx print table... and they will
help, but they need to know the other info about your system.
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George [mailto:flowersoft at compuserve.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:35 AM
> To: john at valar.com
> Subject: RE: end of field marker
>
> Did not know that PFEOF variable was available. Thanks!
>
> Maybe you can help me with this question.
>
> I have a customer who purchased a serial 40-column printer from ebay and
> it
> came with no installation disk.
> How can I print to it from filePro?
> Assuming that it is connected to COM1, how do I set it up in the printer
> maintenance table 'Destination File'?
> Just as COM1?
> Do I also have to have PFOUTS set to something like 1,9600,8,N,1?
> Thanks and thanks for the tip!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces+flowersoft=compuserve.com at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-
> bounces+flowersoft=compuserve.com at lists.celestial.com]
> On Behalf Of John Esak
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:47 PM
> To: 'Scott Nelson'
> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: RE: end of field marker
>
>
> It's not in FacetWin, but in the termcap. You set GZ to be what you
> want....
>
>
> GZ=\E[10m.
>
> For the ansi termcap this sets it to a period, my personal favorite. You
> could change the period to a comma, a ?, a % a # , pretty much whatever
> you
> like inlcluding funny graphics.
>
> In Windows there is an environment variable PFEOF end-of-field marker.
> Set it to various values to get various characters. PFEOM=46 makes it a
> nice unobtrusive period.
>
> John
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com
> > [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Scott Nelson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:18 PM
> > To: filePro Mailing List
> > Subject: end of field marker
> >
> > Does anyone remember how to change the end of field marker using SCO, fp
> > 5.0.14, and Facetwin?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:07:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Enrique Arredondo <henry at vegena.net>
Subject: OT: hylafax on remote server
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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Hi , I'm wondering if it's possible to use my SCO unix server with filepro
on it, and then when I want to fax a report from filepro , can I call my
linux server that runs hylafax to do the faxing ? Has anyone done that ?
Thanks
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:14:53 -0400
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com>
Subject: Re: OT: hylafax on remote server
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:07:39AM -0700, Enrique Arredondo wrote:
> Hi , I'm wondering if it's possible to use my SCO unix server with filepro
> on it, and then when I want to fax a report from filepro , can I call my
> linux server that runs hylafax to do the faxing ? Has anyone done that ?
In general, it's possible to set Hyla up on a Linux box, and set up an lp
printer interface script which extracts destination fax numbers from the
incoming traffic and sets up fax jobs; we've done this, though I cannot
remember for whom.
You then print across to the Linux box, using whatever protocol, and it
does the faxing.
Cheers,
-- jra
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:57:24 -0700
From: Bill Campbell <bill at celestial.com>
Subject: Re: OT: hylafax on remote server
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:07:39AM -0700, Enrique Arredondo wrote:
>> Hi , I'm wondering if it's possible to use my SCO unix server with filepro
>> on it, and then when I want to fax a report from filepro , can I call my
>> linux server that runs hylafax to do the faxing ? Has anyone done that ?
>
>In general, it's possible to set Hyla up on a Linux box, and set up an lp
>printer interface script which extracts destination fax numbers from the
>incoming traffic and sets up fax jobs; we've done this, though I cannot
>remember for whom.
I have written SYSV printer interface scripts that parse the incoming
``print'' jobs extracting the fax destination information, then using
sendfax to send it. One version parsed PostScript generated by MS-Word.
PostScript is probably the closest to a standard that M$ generates, but it
does require cleaning out a bunch of non-standard M$-Crud before parsing.
You could probably build the HylaFAX client for the SCO box (or get a
binary from JP Radley :-). It's been many years since I ran HylaFAX on SCO
so I don't know how easy it is to build on it (some of the HylaFAX
configuration is pretty ugly even on Linux).
Bill
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:23:21 -0700
From: Enrique Arredondo <henry at vegena.net>
Subject: Re: OT: hylafax on remote server
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
Message-ID: <48B58D89.4090701 at vegena.net>
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Bill Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:07:39AM -0700, Enrique Arredondo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi , I'm wondering if it's possible to use my SCO unix server with filepro
>>> on it, and then when I want to fax a report from filepro , can I call my
>>> linux server that runs hylafax to do the faxing ? Has anyone done that ?
>>>
>> In general, it's possible to set Hyla up on a Linux box, and set up an lp
>> printer interface script which extracts destination fax numbers from the
>> incoming traffic and sets up fax jobs; we've done this, though I cannot
>> remember for whom.
>>
>
> I have written SYSV printer interface scripts that parse the incoming
> ``print'' jobs extracting the fax destination information, then using
> sendfax to send it. One version parsed PostScript generated by MS-Word.
> PostScript is probably the closest to a standard that M$ generates, but it
> does require cleaning out a bunch of non-standard M$-Crud before parsing.
>
> You could probably build the HylaFAX client for the SCO box (or get a
> binary from JP Radley :-). It's been many years since I ran HylaFAX on SCO
> so I don't know how easy it is to build on it (some of the HylaFAX
> configuration is pretty ugly even on Linux).
>
> Bill
>
The reason for using Linux over SCO hylafax is that linux can use any
brand of USB modems while for SCO you have to buy specific brands for
USB modems. and also with SCO I have to relink the damn kernel every
time I add or remove any piece of software so have to shutdown the
server and you never know it it's gonna crash something else.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:05:46 -0400
From: Jose Lerebours <fp at fpgroups.com>
Subject: Re: OT: hylafax on remote server
To: Enrique Arredondo <henry at vegena.net>
Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
Message-ID: <48B5977A.5010509 at fpgroups.com>
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Enrique Arredondo wrote:
>
> Bill Campbell wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:07:39AM -0700, Enrique Arredondo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi , I'm wondering if it's possible to use my SCO unix server with filepro
>>>> on it, and then when I want to fax a report from filepro , can I call my
>>>> linux server that runs hylafax to do the faxing ? Has anyone done that ?
>>>>
>>> In general, it's possible to set Hyla up on a Linux box, and set up an lp
>>> printer interface script which extracts destination fax numbers from the
>>> incoming traffic and sets up fax jobs; we've done this, though I cannot
>>> remember for whom.
>>>
>> I have written SYSV printer interface scripts that parse the incoming
>> ``print'' jobs extracting the fax destination information, then using
>> sendfax to send it. One version parsed PostScript generated by MS-Word.
>> PostScript is probably the closest to a standard that M$ generates, but it
>> does require cleaning out a bunch of non-standard M$-Crud before parsing.
>>
>> You could probably build the HylaFAX client for the SCO box (or get a
>> binary from JP Radley :-). It's been many years since I ran HylaFAX on SCO
>> so I don't know how easy it is to build on it (some of the HylaFAX
>> configuration is pretty ugly even on Linux).
>>
>> Bill
>>
> The reason for using Linux over SCO hylafax is that linux can use any
> brand of USB modems while for SCO you have to buy specific brands for
> USB modems. and also with SCO I have to relink the damn kernel every
> time I add or remove any piece of software so have to shutdown the
> server and you never know it it's gonna crash something else.
>
>
>
I have hylafax for Unix in a box with disks and all. Not sure which
version.
$30 + Shipping and it is yours ...
Regards,
---
Jose Lerebours
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:20:05 -0700
From: Bill Campbell <bill at celestial.com>
Subject: Re: OT: hylafax on remote server
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
Message-ID: <20080827182005.GA19507 at ayn.mi.celestial.com>
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On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Enrique Arredondo wrote:
>
>
>Bill Campbell wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:07:39AM -0700, Enrique Arredondo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi , I'm wondering if it's possible to use my SCO unix server with filepro
>>>> on it, and then when I want to fax a report from filepro , can I call my
>>>> linux server that runs hylafax to do the faxing ? Has anyone done that ?
>>>>
>>> In general, it's possible to set Hyla up on a Linux box, and set up an lp
>>> printer interface script which extracts destination fax numbers from the
>>> incoming traffic and sets up fax jobs; we've done this, though I cannot
>>> remember for whom.
>>>
>>
>> I have written SYSV printer interface scripts that parse the incoming
>> ``print'' jobs extracting the fax destination information, then using
>> sendfax to send it. One version parsed PostScript generated by MS-Word.
>> PostScript is probably the closest to a standard that M$ generates, but it
>> does require cleaning out a bunch of non-standard M$-Crud before parsing.
>>
>> You could probably build the HylaFAX client for the SCO box (or get a
>> binary from JP Radley :-). It's been many years since I ran HylaFAX on SCO
>> so I don't know how easy it is to build on it (some of the HylaFAX
>> configuration is pretty ugly even on Linux).
>>
>The reason for using Linux over SCO hylafax is that linux can use any
>brand of USB modems while for SCO you have to buy specific brands for
>USB modems. and also with SCO I have to relink the damn kernel every
>time I add or remove any piece of software so have to shutdown the
>server and you never know it it's gonna crash something else.
We have never used USB modems, only Multitech serial modems as they have
consistently provided the best performance for fax and data.
We don't use any internal modems, largely because one has to reboot the
machine when the modem(s) become wedged while with an external modem, it's
simple to just power cycle it.
Bill
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:12:26 -0400
From: "Jean-Pierre A. Radley" <appl at jpr.com>
Subject: Re: OT: hylafax on remote server
To: FilePro Mailing List <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
Message-ID: <20080827211226.GA5371 at jpradley.jpr.com>
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Bill Campbell propounded (on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:57:24AM -0700):
| On Wed, Aug 27, 2008, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
| >On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:07:39AM -0700, Enrique Arredondo wrote:
| >> Hi , I'm wondering if it's possible to use my SCO unix server with filepro
| >> on it, and then when I want to fax a report from filepro , can I call my
| >> linux server that runs hylafax to do the faxing ? Has anyone done that ?
| >
| >In general, it's possible to set Hyla up on a Linux box, and set up an lp
| >printer interface script which extracts destination fax numbers from the
| >incoming traffic and sets up fax jobs; we've done this, though I cannot
| >remember for whom.
|
| I have written SYSV printer interface scripts that parse the incoming
| ``print'' jobs extracting the fax destination information, then using
| sendfax to send it. One version parsed PostScript generated by MS-Word.
| PostScript is probably the closest to a standard that M$ generates, but it
| does require cleaning out a bunch of non-standard M$-Crud before parsing.
|
| You could probably build the HylaFAX client for the SCO box (or get a
| binary from JP Radley :-). It's been many years since I ran HylaFAX on SCO
| so I don't know how easy it is to build on it (some of the HylaFAX
| configuration is pretty ugly even on Linux).
Hylafax version 5.0.7 is dead easy to compile on OSR 6.0.0 -- no hacking
required at all. The last version I compiled on OSR 5.0.7 was Hylafax
5.0.6, and I suspect Hylafax 5.0.7 would also give no problem. I'll take
credit for working out some compilation bugs since Hylafax 5.0.2 which
has made this possible. Write me for my build script.
--
JP
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