Sound Ideas banned from filePro conference

Wed Oct 3 12:54:33 PDT 2007

I can appreciate Bud's position in attempting to protect his product and I 
think he has shown that he is opening the door. We must give him credit for 
that.

Bob's point was well put in the subtleties attributed to the reasons for Bud 
to embrace a product such as reface or any other Sound Idea product. It 
allows filePro users to remain competitive in the 21st Century. Without 
products such as Sound Ideas many of us would be on a different platform 
today. His product and others like it (such as Anzio) have kept us in the 
fold and allowed filePro to continue to exist.

It is unfortunate in that filePro could be flourishing. For example, I 
offered filePro the opportunity to bid on offering the New York court system 
their platform to do what they are essentially doing in Ohio. They did not 
have much interest.

These types of opportunities could solidify filePro as a real player. It 
depends upon resources available and I understand that filePro's is limited. 
That presents a more compelling reason to have filePro investigate any 
product that can be effectively used in conjunction with filePro. We are 
constantly investigating new opportunities that could be of use in 
conjunction with filePro. We use a number of outside programs that interact 
with filePro. They have become an integral part of our survival in 
maintaining a competitive edge.

Dennis Malen
516.479.5912

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Henschen" <bud at henschen.com>
To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: Sound Ideas banned from filePro conference

> WWWHHHHHOOOOOOAAAAAAAA!   Larry you should have gotten your fact straight
> before you got everyone involved. This is why I don't monitor this list 
> but
> have one of the staff monitor it. I am open to speak with anyone 
> concerning
> any issue (call 419-352-5454), but I'm not entering into a useless debate
> via email.
>
> The facts are that this is a FP Conference and I see it as open to vendors
> that promote filePro.  Micro-lite (Backup Edge) chose to have a training
> session following our conference and Tom promoted the filePro Conference 
> in
> his newsletter and during the SCO forum this past August.  Bob
> Rasmussen,(Anzio)has promoted filePro for many years and showed it in his
> demos at SCO forum; however, if you check out Dave's www.soundideas.com
> web-site, you'll see no promo or mention of filePro.
>
> I have enclosed the following email that Dave sent to Lauren.
> ===========================================
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: filePro Conference
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:06:38 -0400
> From: David Stauble <dave at soundideas.com>
> Organization: Sound Ideas Of America, Inc. (http://www.soundideas.com)
> To: lkelly at fptech.com
>
> Lauren,
>
> John Esak forwarded one of your messages to me and I am interested in
> getting a table at the upcoming filePro conference in Philadelphia.
>
> I am a 20+ year user of filePro and sold over 40 copies as a dealer years
> ago with Small Computer.
>
> I currently offer a number of UNIX-based products that can be used with
> filePro including scanning documents, capturing electronic signatures, web
> page merging and more, with our most notable product being our new 
> FineLine
> Reface which enables creating a complete graphical interface to any UNIX
> character-based software - with extensive support for filePro.
>
> I saw that the "Vendor Showcase" begins at 7:30 PM on Monday, 11/5.  How
> long will it last?  Does that mean that I would only need to be there on
> Monday night (I rarely develop in filePro anymore so I do not need to 
> attend
> the conference)?
>
> Thanks for your assistance.  Any additional information you can provide 
> will
> be appreciated.  If you wish to call, my number is 570-643-6611.
>
> Dave
> =======================
> As you can see, Dave did not ask to present at the conference as Larry's
> email indicated, but to be at the "Vendor's Showcase", he "rarely develop 
> in
> filePro" (so what happens if he stops supporting filePro?), and "I do not
> need to attend the conference (lack of interest, humm)."  Based on this, I
> didn't think it was in the best interest of having him participate without
> including Tru-Gui, etc. etc. I'm not sure why you (list members) feel that
> FP Tech should promote non-filePro vendors at the filePro conference.  I
> think that Brian White had a valid point when he indicated that any vendor
> can rent a room to promote their product; however, is it FP Tech's
> responsibility to invite them to our "Vendor Showcase."
>
> Since many feel that I DO NOT listen to what is being said, let me inform
> you that I spoke with Dave this AM and invited him to come to the "Vendor
> Show" on Monday evening from 7:30 P.M. to 11:00 P.M. to speak with any of
> you concerning his software. He will be allowed to include any information
> he wants to include in the conference distribution; however, he will not 
> be
> a presenter at the conference nor will I promote his product at this time.
> Once our staff has had a chance to review his product at length, Dave and 
> I
> will discuss possibility of offering his product to the filePro community.
>
> Hopefully this will clarify the facts for you.
>
> Bud L Henschen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:19 PM
> To: Bud Henschen
> Subject: Fw: Sound Ideas banned from filePro conference
>
> fyi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Hoover" <filepro at hoovercs.com>
> To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Cc: "Larry Hoover" <larry at hoovercs.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:41 PM
> Subject: Sound Ideas banned from filePro conference
>
>
>>I was told by Dave Stauble of Sound Ideas that he was not allowed to
>> present at the filePro conference because his Reface product is a
>> competitor to filePro GI.
>>
>> I don't know how other people may feel, but as the GI product is so
>> limited, something like Reface may be the only glimmer of hope to
>> keeping filePro alive in the GUI world.  I, for one, would love to
>> see a
>> presentation from third party vendors like Sound Ideas.  I have
>> already
>> concluded that fpgi will not suit my needs, and banning them from
>> the
>> conference will not change my mind.  I don't see Reface as a
>> competitor,
>> I see it as an enhancement.
>>
>> Any comments on this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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