Sound Ideas banned from filePro conference

Wed Oct 3 05:27:43 PDT 2007

If true that's pretty lame.

What about AniTA and MixViews?
They have been able to provide gui front ends to telnet apps for ages already.
Of course theres no risk of any Anita or Mixviews vendors wanting to attend but it's the same thing. With enough work you could probably do quite a lot with Anzio or any other emulator that has a fairly rich scripting and backchannel/escape-codes feature set. If someone had happened to do that work would they ban Anzio? What about fpweb & onegate & everyone elses own cgi wrappers? Are they banning mention of them because fpcgi exists?

It's definitely in our interests that something like Reface exists, so as far as I'm concerned theres no other way to describe this except as an (yet another) example fp acting as though they do not have our interests as their primary goal. *coughlicensemanagercough* Sucks to be dependant on that.

Wish they'd compete by competing. Where the heck is my color screen editor for unix I've been waiting 8 years for? (that's just since I personally first encountered fp, the functionality was already several years overdue at that time) Is Laura banned because she wrote a work-around for that? After all, the DOS and Windows versions exist as well as xfer to translate from dos to unix, and a different xfer to translate from unix to dos. It's a ridiculously inconvenient way to work, not to mention expensive buying 3 whole products you don't need or want just to do that one function. But, like fpGI, fp already has it and sells it so anything else that does the same job must be verboten. Meanwhile, instead of functionality like that which is so basic it's laughable, inexcusable even, that it's missing even from the very _first_ version of fp that could _display_ a color screen, let alone the how many years worth of versions since then? Instead we have ...  well we've been over the various goofy inexplicable things that have been worked on over the years many times already among the admittedly useful and valuable updates.

I think everyone is too forgiving and understanding and willing to live with and work around shortcomings. As much as I admire and aspire to those qualities at the personal level, apparently they are counterproductive outside of personal relationships, at least when allowed to go on indefinitely.

Lastly, how can fp actually stop Fineline from renting a hoitel room and doing anything they want in there? or even some conference space? Did they really buy the entire hotel for the weekend so that they can actually stop hoim at the front door??? All FP can do as far as I can tell is not include Fineline in the official programming, and if they were fantastically petty they could refuse to sell anyone from Fineline a registration to the conference so he couldn't attend, even merely as a customer/attendee, any official con events.
I can't see how that would hardly make a difference in Daves ability to demo his product. It's a small enough community that word of mouth should be perfectly fine to get the word out about where you are when etc.. If I was him, I'd just go regardless. I'd also feel disgusted that I'd just spent that much of my life developing a product to that level of sophistication only to have fp treat me that way.

Perhaps that is all fP really said was they wouldn't include anything about Reface in the official convention programming? If that was the case I don't see how thats so bad. A little dissapointing but not exactly evil or even necessarily uncivil.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Hoover 
  To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com 
  Cc: Larry Hoover 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:41 PM
  Subject: Sound Ideas banned from filePro conference

  I was told by Dave Stauble of Sound Ideas that he was not allowed to present at the filePro conference because his Reface product is a competitor to filePro GI.

  I don't know how other people may feel, but as the GI product is so limited, something like Reface may be the only glimmer of hope to keeping filePro alive in the GUI world.  I, for one, would love to see a presentation from third party vendors like Sound Ideas.  I have already concluded that fpgi will not suit my needs, and banning them from the conference will not change my mind.  I don't see Reface as a competitor, I see it as an enhancement.

  Any comments on this?

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