Filepro Version 5.0.15

Jay R. Ashworth jra at baylink.com
Tue Nov 13 19:15:31 PST 2007


On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:33:00AM -0500, Fairlight wrote:
> >From inside the gravity well of a singularity, Jay Ashworth shouted:
> > I'm not entirely clear on why .15 required the oss... but I will say
> > that I concur with Scott and Brian: I too believe it reasonable for an
> > application not to require a OS patch for a point release, especially
> > one that's a bugfix.  This is one of the reasons why release managers
> > are expected to feature freeze older releases at some point: so that
> > all later point releases *are* bugfix only release -- because I *don't*
> > think it's unreasonable for feature releases to require such upgrade.
> > 
> > But those should be 5.x upgrades, not 5.x.y upgrades.
> 
> And ya know, I ordinarily agree.  Actually, I -do- agree.
> 
> I think the explanation though lies in the timeframe between releases.
> They had problems with RH9 and had to switch to dynamic linking, at least
> for a while, back between 5.0.9 and 5.0.10, for example.  
> 
> When you release versions that far apart (.15 was like over a year delayed
> from its intended release from what I remember, and longer still past .14),
> well operating systems move on, I'm sorry.  That's what happens when you
> move slowly in the middle of a fast-moving field.
> 
> Unfortunately, the users end up paying the price for that in convenience
> loss.  But what are you gonna do?

As a developer of toolsets for software developers?

I'm going to keep a non-646 patched machine in my build farm.

> And man, if you think -that- is bad, then avoid PHP like the plague.  They
> release a bugfix patch, and of course it's a beast to build.  But a week
> later they released a patch for the broken patch and said (apparently, in
> essence), "Oh, what the hell, we're putting out a new version, let's
> include the latest PCRE interpreter!"  Which happened in a .x.y release
> bump of one, in a bugfix release, and -broke- the way it built with
> existing .spec files for rpm.

Yeah.  I avoid PHP as much as possible.

Cheers,
-- jra
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