Top Post RE: The future of filePro... one major one anyway!

Thu May 17 07:27:03 PDT 2007

Sorry Don,
This I know... it only works for Unix based apps.  but I bleiieve it can
handlwe Windows server apps as long as there is a Linux box for this thing
to reside on somewhere. You need to talk directly with Sound Ideas to find
out if this is corect.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Coleman [mailto:dcoleman at dgcreact.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 AM
> To: john at valar.com
> Subject: Top Post RE: The future of filePro... one major one anyway!
>
>
> John:
>
> Do you know if this app. can provide GUI capabilities to Windows-based fP
> apps as well, or just Unix?
>
>
> Don Coleman
> Donald G. Coleman, Consultant
> 402 Andrew Circle
> Indiana, PA 15701
> dcoleman at dgcreact.com
> (724) 349-6302
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: filepro-list-bounces+dcoleman=dgcreact.com at lists.celestial.com
> >
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+dcoleman=dgcreact.com at lists.celestial.com] On
> > Behalf Of John Esak
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:29 AM
> > To: Filepro-List at Lists. Celestial. Com
> > Subject: ADV: The future of filePro... one major one anyway!
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello World,
> >
> > I'm going to write a few sentences here to briefly describe a
> new product
> > I
> > have had the pleasure (and honor) to see grow from an idea into
> what will
> > in
> > my opinion instantly become one of the most important futures
> of filePro.
> > It
> > comes from Sound Ideas, and is called Reface.
> >
> > I won't steal his thunder, and I can NOT in a few words describe the
> > massive
> > complexity of design that makes this program what it is, nor will I try
> > and
> > describe how it works... I'll let Dave (the author) and his formal
> > announcement and press release in the next week or so do that
> good stuff.
> > I
> > will say, however, that this is it. This is, finally, the holy
> grail.  By
> > that I mean it is the product we have all been looking for this past 20
> > years or so for filePro.
> >
> > Okay, okay... what does it do! As simply put as I can do it, "Reface"
> > allows
> > you to convert your existing filePro Unix applications to full
> Windows GUI
> > programs.
> >
> > It does this totally respecting every bit of processing you
> have, yet does
> > it with Windows style screens, buttons, etc., that give the user full
> > mouse-ability and the uncompromising belief that they are running a
> > Windows
> > graphical application rather than a character based database.
> Do NOT make
> > the assumption that this is some kind of "screen scraper" or
> anything even
> > remotely like that. It is absolutely nothing like anything you
> (or I) have
> > ever seen before, and it is so far ahead of everything else out there,
> > that
> > as I said it will instantly become the de-facto method for putting
> > completely graphical Windows front ends on any legacy character based
> > application.
> >
> > This year SCO is spotlighting how to bring legacy character based apps
> > into
> > the GUI world... *but* they are showing and suggesting only ancient and
> > essentially ridiculous programs to accomplish this. All of the
> things they
> > are suggesting and "pushing" in their upcoming technical conference are
> > *incapable* of truly doing the job in nearly every way. They
> all come from
> > an outmoded "idea" of how to do the job, so they can never be really
> > "right", and they will never be anything but slow, cumbersome
> (and stupid
> > looking) bad screen renderings of your app that look like and work like
> > just
> > what they are, crap.
> >
> > When everyone sees what Sound Ideas has come up with this time,
> and I know
> > it has taken them years to do right, everything else on the
> market will be
> > blown away. You don't have to take my word for it, just wait
> and see. The
> > approach and methodology Dave has used to make this product work the way
> > we
> > all have been waiting for is going to succeed where everything else has
> > failed.  He already has the product out there in a couple
> places where the
> > participating developer has a huge user base of a filePro app that they
> > simply can not afford to "re-write" in Windows... nor do they really
> > *want*
> > to do this! Hell, the programs are written in filePro and
> because of that
> > are fantastically powerful and correct for their users, why in the world
> > would they want to change them?  They don't, all they want to do is make
> > them full GUI compliant apps that "look and feel" like Windows programs.
> > Users these days want, need, and honestly *deserve* to roll from any of
> > their other Windows programs directly into their filePro app without
> > thinking they've gone into the dark ages of DOS... losing not only their
> > mouse and their cut and paste, but their entire intuitive
> *feel* of how to
> > run things on their desktop. This new product, Reface, lets you do this
> > for
> > them... and for your filePro packages... yes the ones you've
> been working
> > on
> > for all your life. You don't have to lose them, change them or
> drop any of
> > their functionality. You get to just convert and re-design
> their look and
> > feel to be *mainstream*.  Yes, I think this product from Sound
> Ideas will
> > finally move filePro into that "real" world which has been so
> illusive for
> > it in the past.
> >
> > Best of all, the product is reasonably priced for what it does. If you
> > have
> > a package that is deployed to many people out there, imagine
> what it would
> > cost to rewrite it, or have it rewritten by someone else to be a full
> > Windows GUI application? $20K maybe for starters?  Who knows... the only
> > starting point for such a task is *high* whatever it is. Besides, the
> > first
> > thing that really happens if you take that route is that you lose design
> > control and adaptability control and in general the ability to
> just change
> > your program at will, or whenever a user needs something,  that filePro
> > gives you. With Reface, you not only don't lose any of this because you
> > still program *in* filePro, but you gain the sorely wanted ability to
> > enhance your apps by doing all the graphical stuff you've
> always wanted to
> > do... be it just make the damn program mousable with nice looking fonts,
> > buttons, and dropdowns, etc., or, doing some of the new, really valuable
> > things Reface empowers you to do like browsing through images in a parts
> > file and flipping through GUI filePro screens and functionality
> as you do
> > it... all never taking your hand off the mouse!
> >
> > All right, I've gotten the "wow!" out of my system...I can't
> wait for the
> > formal release in the next   couple weeks. When you see it...
> take a good
> > look. Remember, this product comes from the same people who
> brought us so
> > many amazing programs before, from the dead simple but
> wonderful Datapipe,
> > to the amazing Weblink, which is without doubt the simplest, most secure
> > and
> > dead easiest way to integrate your Unix filePro apps with a
> website... if
> > you haven't seen Weblink, take my word for it... this product
> does exactly
> > what you want and more.  I couldn't work a day without it when
> it comes to
> > the web and filePro integration. However, we are not talking about this
> > stuff now... we are talking about Reface... or at least we certainly all
> > will be doing so shortly. I'm betting also all the X-org and IXnet and
> > W-cubed legacy-to-GUI engineers out there. This is not just a something
> > for
> > filePro, although it has been specifically designed to facilitate moving
> > filePro to GUI, it will work with *any* character-based *nix app.
> >
> > I'm so glad to have been a little in the background on this one in that
> > Dave
> > Stauble is my long time friend, and therefore able to scoop the news to
> > you
> > first. Once again, as with any of my reviews or "scoops", this was
> > completely unsolicited. Sound Ideas has no idea :-) I've
> written it. Like
> > I
> > say, I'm not trying to steal any thunder, just ride on top of
> the wave as
> > it
> > happens.
> >
> > So, what is the summary of all this praise and premature disclosure? If
> > you've got big (or little) filePro Unix apps (or even just
> ideas) and you
> > want to put them on  everyone's desktop in a way they will immediately
> > accept and love... check this out when Sound Ideas does their
> release next
> > week or so, you will not be disappointed.
> >
> > John Esak
> > Hazleton, PA
> >
> > Visit The FilePro Room at www.tinyurl.com/97y9u
> >
> >
> >
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