experience with Xerox Phaser 6180n & filepro

[Brian K. White]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Asman" <jlasman at telus.net>
To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: experience with Xerox Phaser 6180n & filepro


> --------------- Original Message ---------------
> At 08:25P Thu Mar 01 2007, Mike Schwartz wrote:
>
>> From: Kenneth Brody
>> Quoting Jim Asman (Thu,  1 Mar 2007 16:45:13 -0800):
>>
>> > --------------- Original Message ---------------
>> > At 05:54P Thu Mar 01 2007, Tony Freehauf wrote:
>> >
>> > > hi experts
>> > > anyone have a positive experience using a
>> > > Xerox Phaser 6180n with filepro?
>> > >           Specs say PCL 6 emulation
>> > >
>> >
>> > In a filePro context, if it doesn't do PCL5 ***internally***,
>> > don't touch it.
>>
>> http://www.office.xerox.com/perl-bin/intpromo.pl?source=55448&id=6180n&slot=
>> PRINT&uri=%2Findex.html
>>
>>     Page Description Languages
>>
>>         AdobeR PostScriptR 3&#8482;, PCLR 6 emulation
>>
>> --
>>
>>     It is the "internally" that got me wondering:  Does anybody know of 
>> any
>> laser printers (color or black & white) that are "dumb" and depend on
>> external drivers to do any printing at all, like most of the inkjets
>> currently do?
>>
>>     I always considered laser printers fairly safe, insofar as all the 
>> newer
>> ones would handle at least PCL3 commands.
>>
>
> Sure!
>
> HP 10xx Lasers
>
> HP 15xx Color Lasers for sure, 2500-2600 probably, and one or two
> in the 3x00 series. I seem to recall Bob Repko got caught with one
> of these.
>
> I'm sure there are more.

Just to clear up a couple that have risky sounding model numbers but turn 
out DO work:
Laserjet 2500, 3015 and 3050 are all ok. 1300 and 1320 of course.

Brother and samsung at least make lasers that are dumb like inkjets.
And I know I ran into some largish standalone laser multifunctions that had 
no native pcl either since years ago. that was... Minolta.

So definitely laser != safe just because it's laser by any means.

And having pcl is not always the end of the story either.
Another customer had a Canon laser standalone multifunction that had pcl but 
it was worse than if it didn't, because formats that have worked on 
gazillions of printers over the years (including lots of cheap Brother & 
Lexmark, big ricoh, savin, etc not just a lot of hp) didn't work on that 
one, but they *almost* worked and merely needed tweaking and putting in more 
init codes to nail down some settings that up to then had just always 
defaulted the same way by luck I guess. Waht a sinkhole of time that was... 
And in the end we just told them that printer wouldn't work because some 
forms I was struggling to get the form working on his printer without 
breaking on every other printer.

But there would be no way to determin that from the box or from any amount 
of on line specs and that was the only time I ever had that problem so I 
wouldn't worry about that possibility too much I guess.

Brian K. White  --  brian at aljex.com  --  http://www.aljex.com/bkw/
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