OT: websites/popups (was Re: The filePro & Group - A secondattempt)

[Brian K. White]

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Subject: Re: OT: websites/popups (was Re: The filePro & Group - A 
secondattempt)


> Four score and seven years--eh, screw that!
> At about Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 05:22:22PM -0400,
> Kenneth Brody blabbed on about:
>>
>> Well, there are the ones that pop up a window w/o resize ability,
>> and they make the window too small.  (Perhaps it's the right size
>> if you are using IE and have the right font size set.  But, I end
>> up with a window with content larger than the window, no way to
>> resize the window, and no scrollbars.)
>
> Ewwwwwwwwww.  I've fortunately not run into that.  Maybe the Doom3 or Fear
> demo windows but that was Flash and non-scalable.
>
>> And speaking of Flash (which you were in the snipped portion), don't
>> get me started on sites that have a Flash-only main page.  (The kind
>> that shows up entirely blank -- not even a "click here to continue"
>> or a "skip intro" link -- if you have Flash disabled.)  Or, worse, a
>> Flash-only entire website.
>
> *cough*  Sci-Fi Channel used to be like that.  It's still beastly to use
> without Flash, but the official Stargate sites were like that.  :(
> Actually, it still is:  http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/  The whole main 
> menu
> with any of the useful links is all buried in the Flash.
>
> And if you had no Flash installed, it would mandate that you get it.  I
> originally had issues when on Win95 and then after migrating to Win2K 
> where
> it looked like it was installed, was installed, but was somehow screwy, 
> and
> I kept installing it and it kept saying I required Flash at Sci-Fi...any
> part of Sci-Fi.  Eventually I found the uninstaller and fixed that.
>
> Damn, that ticks me off too.  *low growl*  You're not alone on that.
>
> I've come to a truce with Flash after I got Flash Firestarter from
> Coffeecup Software.  I like it, but in moderation and where it makes 
> sense.
> I've changed my views on PDF as well, obviously.  Never let it be said my
> opinions are wholly immutable and immune to new evidence.  Still...there's
> the issue of "sensible use".  Unfortunately designers buy into the
> oft-quoted statistic that Flash is installed on 99% of net-connected
> systems.  I think that's probably a Macromedia/Adobe-derived statistic,
> myself.

I think any site that claims to be "sci-fi" that I can't acces from my Treo, 
kind of automatically fails and disqualifies itself! What's more sci-fi than 
doing stuff from your phone that used to require a small office?

I have hit the window-too-small-for-contents, no-scroll-bar, 
right-click-disabled, 
you-have-apparently-hired-a-very-skilled-and-insightful-consultant-to-know-just-how-best-to-piss-me-off-so-exquisitely, 
kind of popup window also. Grr!.

Flash ads that I actually do want to visit, but in a new tab so as not to 
lose the fruit of hours of searching from the current tab, but you can't 
right-click-new-tab a link in a flash ad, and if you were to reload the 
current page in a new tab you wouldnt' get the same ad in that spot from the 
random rotation... those bug me kind of a lot too. Yeah the browser can make 
up the difference and cater to the ad, by using copy current tab to new tab, 
sorta, you don't retain your back button history... Something kind of 
backwards about bending over backwards to make yourself compatible with an 
advertisement vs the other way around...

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