FW: We need a referendum... on MEMO...

[John Esak]

Thanks, I'll tell Lisa to fix that... and thanks for the vote. Silence means
YES.  :-) :-)

John




-----Original Message-----
From: Faisal Karim [mailto:faisalk at furniture-pro.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:20 AM
To: john at valar.com
Subject: RE: We need a referendum... on MEMO...


John,



How are you?



You may want to correct the spelling of Follup UP Notes on your demo screen
for the trip sheet screen.



Faisal



-----Original Message-----
From: filepro-list-bounces+faisalk=furniture-pro.com at lists.celestial.com
[mailto:filepro-list-bounces+faisalk=furniture-pro.com at lists.celestial.com]
On Behalf Of John Esak
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:50 AM
To: Filepro-List at Lists. Celestial. Com
Subject: We need a referendum... on MEMO...





Okay, we've started using the MEMO function lots more now that some of the

small niggles are fixed in 5.6 (and 5.0.15).  Mainly, the prompts for

inserting (D)ate and (T)ime can now be mnemonic as they really should be

(with an environment var.)



Anyhow... here's the deal. A girl at Nexus started up this new filePro file

to track the trips our sales people make. It is nothing but a simple flat

file with name and address, and some notes. I put in the *two* notes

sections she wanted, Follow-Up's and Outcome. The whole screen looks nifty

and works quite well... EXCEPT... and this is a GIANT EXCEPT.... To get out

of either of the MEMO fields, the user has to press ESC ESC (or just ESC on

Windows).  What a pain!  Not being able to just TAB into and out of these

MEMO fields completely *ruins* the look and feel of filePro. After years and

years of getting people to become used to what TAB does and what ESCAPE

does... to have to show them this totally NEW functionality... well, it's

horrible. To see exactly what I mean, you can check out the little training

clip I did for this program at:





       http://www.valar.com/tripsheet.wmv





You will see the problem precisely... and, I think... along with several

others I've talked to, that  the situation can be FIXED. How?  FP Tech makes

one decision... one decision to break some programming that *some* few

people may have in place.... in order to provide the vast majority of folks

out there with a functionality that is much preferred. I'm betting a

referendum here will prove out that a VERY high percentage of programmers

would rather have things work in the following way. Simply put, the TAB key

should NOT function while your cursor is inside a MEMO field. Instead it

should immediately take you to the next field in the cursor path!  This

would make MEMO's (and at least the way I've implemented them here) work

like any other filePro field with regards to the TAB key and the ESC key.

Who in the world relies on or needs the TAB key to work while inside a MEMO

field????  I'm betting no one really.  Take a quick look at the training

clip... it's long and boring because I have to talk as if there are new

people watching who don't know anything about how to run filePro... so no

need to watch the whole thing.... just watch long enough to see what I'm

talking about with the MEMO fields.



Then, vote... put up your opinion in a YES change the TAB key to work as it

should.... or NO leave things mixed up like they are now.  Put up an opinion

or just a vote... but let's see if we can't get this thing changed now...

before it prevents many others from trying to use MEMO's in more and more

applications.



John



P.S. - Yes, I understand that it could be viewed that TAB should work as a

TAB inside the  little MEMO editor... That wasn't a bad design decision...

or really any kind of foul up at all.... It is all very correct... and I

don't really mean to say it is "wrong".  BUT, it totally screws up the

general way filePro is used... and in the last analysis makes MEMO's that

much harder to use.  I hope you all agree with me and I'm not just imagining

how much of a pain this is....  (Actually, the only other 3 people I've

asked about this, fully agree... so I'm not too worried.)  Watch, then

 Vote.  I don't know that a landslide of YES's would do much to get it

changed by FP Tech... but it would be a start.  The next thing after this...

would be to get some kind of *triggers* wrking while in a MEMO field.... but

I'm willing to start small.  :-)



Indientally, if you've read this far... my long-awaited... (at least, long

announced) special, major new thing is finally almost ready.... Next week

some time for sure!!!







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