Filepro-list Digest, Vol 46, Issue 53

wdg3rd at comcast.net wdg3rd at comcast.net
Wed Dec 5 14:21:48 PST 2007


Hen3ry, I'm sort of a newbie meself.  I thought fP was a dead product when I picked up a copy of 3.0 DOS version something over 10 years back.  But I'd started using it when it was called Profile II, sent a mailing (a Scripsit 12 merge) way the hell back in 1980 to all of the teachers in Clark County NV plugging the free BASIC classes at the new RSCC where i'd been hired on as the instructor.

Yeah, the grey in this beard isn't an accident,  But there are several on this list who used fP before I did.  (Howie comes real quickly to mind since he invented the fewkin' thing, but there are a few folks I met at a Tangent conference backalong also).  
--
Ward Griffiths    wdg3rd at comcast.net

Well, if you're gonna buy a ticket on the Titanic, you might as well go First Class.

Captain Audie Murphy, Texas Ranger, in _Roswell, Texas_ by L. Neil Smith, Rex May and Scott Bieser.
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>    1. Re: OT: A Sales Tool (Kenneth Brody)
>    2. Re: OT:  A Sales Tool (Art Moore)
>    3. Re: Error Message--Telephone System on Same Cable (Bill Campbell)
>    4. Re: Error Message--Telephone System on Same Cable (Henry Melancon)
>    5. Re: Error Message (Henry Melancon)
>    6. Re: Error Message (Bill Campbell)
>    7. Re: Still trying to solve hangs due to license server
>       (Kenneth Brody)
>    8. License Manager Issues (Scott Walker)
>    9. RE: Error Message (John Esak)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:49:55 -0500
> From: Kenneth Brody <kenbrody at bestweb.net>
> Subject: Re: OT: A Sales Tool
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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> Quoting Art Moore (Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:35:19 -0600):
> 
> > This seems like a pretty good plan and thought some of you might be   
> > interested in what the link below has to offer.
> >
> > http://members.audiogenerator.com/specialinfo.asp?x=[elided]
> 
> Personally, I _hate_ websites and e-mails that start talking to me without
> my clicking a "press here to play" button.  (Background music is bad enough.
> Playing speech and/or videos is a whole other matter.)
> 
> -- 
> KenBrody at BestWeb dot net        spamtrap: <g8ymh8uf001 at sneakemail.com>
> http://www.hvcomputer.com
> http://www.fileProPlus.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:05:59 -0600
> From: "Art Moore" <cowboy at pcanswersinc.com>
> Subject: Re: OT:  A Sales Tool
> To: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com>,
> 	<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Message-ID: <00b501c8339d$339405c0$4101a8c0 at COWBOYHP>
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> Thank you god.  Please don't hesitate to continue to make my mind up for me 
> and others from your superior place.  It just might be something OTHERS 
> could find interesting and useful.  As if I were the only one to make a dime 
> from this list...   What did I ever do to you?
> 
> Art
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com>
> To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: A Sales Tool
> 
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 03:35:19PM -0600, Art Moore wrote:
> >>    This seems like a pretty good plan and thought some of you might be
> >>    interested in what the link below has to offer.
> >>
> >>    [1]http://members.audiogenerator.com/specialinfo.asp?x=1560636
> >
> > Clearly.
> >
> > Those who might think they're interested, but don't want Art to get his
> > referral cut, can just go to www.audiogenerator.com
> >
> > But I wouldn't bother if I were you.  :-)
> >
> > Cheer,
> > -- jra
> > -- 
> > Jay R. Ashworth                   Baylink 
> > jra at baylink.com
> > Designer                     The Things I Think                       RFC 
> > 2100
> > Ashworth & Associates     http://baylink.pitas.com                     '87 
> > e24
> > St Petersburg FL USA      http://photo.imageinc.us             +1 727 647 
> > 1274
> >
> >      Witty slogan redacted until AMPTP stop screwing WGA
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:11:58 -0800
> From: Bill Campbell <bill at celestial.com>
> Subject: Re: Error Message--Telephone System on Same Cable
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Message-ID: <20071130221158.GA27914 at ayn.mi.celestial.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2007, Henry Melancon wrote:
> >Our telephones are utilizing the same network cable.  Would that have any
> >issues with Filepro.
> 
> When you say the same network cable, do you mean that you have
> something like a terminal block where one cat-5 cable is split
> out so that it has a LAN cable and two pairs for POTS lines?
> 
> I have done this on occassion where the number of drops was
> limited, and don't remember ever having problems, at least with
> 10/100 speeds on the LAN.  Where I have a say in the build-out
> cabling, I specify lots of cable drops per office as it usually
> doesn't cost much per extra drop when one has a crew installing
> and cabling is relatively cheap (although there have been quite a
> few cases where thieves are stealing copper wire and pipe from
> construction sites and suppliers yards around here as the value
> of the dollar plummets compared to Real Things(tm)).
> 
> Bill
> --
> INTERNET:   bill at celestial.com  Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC
> URL: http://www.celestial.com/  PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
> FAX:            (206) 232-9186  Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676
> 
> I presume you all know who I am.  I am humble Abraham Lincoln.  I have been
> solicited by many friends to become a candidate for the legistlature.  My
> politics are short and sweet, like the old woman's dance.  I am in favor of
> a national bank ... in favor of the internal improvements system, and a
> high protective tariff. -- Abraham Lincoln, 1832
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:09:05 -0600
> From: "Henry Melancon" <melancon at cajun.net>
> Subject: Re: Error Message--Telephone System on Same Cable
> To: <bill at celestial.com>,	<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Message-ID: <004e01c833a6$01cf2700$b864a8c0 at gifcorp.gifinc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> We have one cable coming out to the phone and then from the phone to the
> computer.  Cat-5......
> 
> Henry
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Campbell" <bill at celestial.com>
> To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Error Message--Telephone System on Same Cable
> 
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2007, Henry Melancon wrote:
> > >Our telephones are utilizing the same network cable.  Would that have any
> > >issues with Filepro.
> >
> > When you say the same network cable, do you mean that you have
> > something like a terminal block where one cat-5 cable is split
> > out so that it has a LAN cable and two pairs for POTS lines?
> >
> > I have done this on occassion where the number of drops was
> > limited, and don't remember ever having problems, at least with
> > 10/100 speeds on the LAN.  Where I have a say in the build-out
> > cabling, I specify lots of cable drops per office as it usually
> > doesn't cost much per extra drop when one has a crew installing
> > and cabling is relatively cheap (although there have been quite a
> > few cases where thieves are stealing copper wire and pipe from
> > construction sites and suppliers yards around here as the value
> > of the dollar plummets compared to Real Things(tm)).
> >
> > Bill
> > --
> > INTERNET:   bill at celestial.com  Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC
> > URL: http://www.celestial.com/  PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
> > FAX:            (206) 232-9186  Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206)
> 236-1676
> >
> > I presume you all know who I am.  I am humble Abraham Lincoln.  I have
> been
> > solicited by many friends to become a candidate for the legistlature.  My
> > politics are short and sweet, like the old woman's dance.  I am in favor
> of
> > a national bank ... in favor of the internal improvements system, and a
> > high protective tariff. -- Abraham Lincoln, 1832
> > _______________________________________________
> > Filepro-list mailing list
> > Filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:13:42 -0600
> From: "Henry Melancon" <melancon at cajun.net>
> Subject: Re: Error Message
> To: "Kenneth Brody" <kenbrody at bestweb.net>
> Cc: filePro Mailing List <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Message-ID: <006d01c833a6$a672fac0$b864a8c0 at gifcorp.gifinc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I have been around for about 10 years now.  I guess I qualify as a "Newbee"
> compared to the rest of you people!!!!  I have been working with Filepro
> since 1993........
> 
> Henry
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenneth Brody" <kenbrody at bestweb.net>
> To: "Henry Melancon" <melancon at cajun.net>
> Cc: "filePro Mailing List" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Error Message
> 
> 
> > Quoting Henry Melancon (Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:44:08 -0600):
> >
> > > You guys are not nice, but I love it!!!!
> > >
> > > My IT guy deserves it!!!!
> > [...]
> >
> > If you think this is "not nice", you haven't been here very long, have
> > you?  :-)
> >
> > Of course, nothing compares to the "good old days" of CompuServe/TANGENT,
> > when a couple of the members (who are still on this list, BTW) got to the
> > point of threatening physical harm if they were to run into each other.
> >
> > -- 
> > KenBrody at BestWeb dot net        spamtrap: <g8ymh8uf001 at sneakemail.com>
> > http://www.hvcomputer.com
> > http://www.fileProPlus.com
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:31:16 -0800
> From: Bill Campbell <bill at celestial.com>
> Subject: Re: Error Message
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Message-ID: <20071130223116.GA4801 at ayn.mi.celestial.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2007, Henry Melancon wrote:
> >I have been around for about 10 years now.  I guess I qualify as a "Newbee"
> >compared to the rest of you people!!!!  I have been working with Filepro
> >since 1993........
> 
> There are quite a few on this list who started with Profile II on
> the Radio Shack Modek II in 1980 or so.
> 
> I first met John Esak when he was a CMR at the Radio Shack
> Computer Center on 18th street in D.C., and I was managing an
> ``X'' department in the Radio Shack retail store at 19th and K.
> 
> Bill
> --
> INTERNET:   bill at celestial.com  Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC
> URL: http://www.celestial.com/  PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
> FAX:            (206) 232-9186  Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676
> 
> The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and
> hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins.
>    -- H.L. Mencken, 1923
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:57:43 -0500
> From: Kenneth Brody <kenbrody at bestweb.net>
> Subject: Re: Still trying to solve hangs due to license server
> To: Boaz Bezborodko <boaz at mirrotek.com>
> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Message-ID: <20071130185743.k005zpzvlwg4go88 at webmail.spamcop.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=ISO-8859-1;	DelSp="Yes";
> 	format="flowed"
> 
> Quoting Boaz Bezborodko (Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:32:30 -0500):
> 
> [...]
> > I am currently running Windows FP off a Samba server and the license
> > manager is also running on the server.  Before I stop the license server
> > I see a lot of incoming connections to the port that have status of
> > SYN_RECV and CLOSE_WAIT.  When I shut down the server everything closes
> > except for one connection that says FIN_WAIT1.  Even if I close all FP
> > windows on that machine it remains until it times-out (I guess).  Until
> > that connection shuts down I can't restart the license manager since it
> > sees that port as being in use.
> [...]
> 
> How old is your copy of the license manager?  As I recall, there were
> some issues on some platforms with the early release of the license
> manager not releasing the sockets as quickly as it should have.  Contact
> fpsupport and tell then what's going on, and they should be able to get
> you the latest version of the license manager.
> 
> -- 
> KenBrody at BestWeb dot net        spamtrap: <g8ymh8uf001 at sneakemail.com>
> http://www.hvcomputer.com
> http://www.fileProPlus.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:27 -0500
> From: "Scott Walker" <ScottWalker at RAMSystemsCorp.com>
> Subject: License Manager Issues
> To: <support at fptech.com>
> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Message-ID: <000101c833c9$b2b70100$6a01a8c0 at SWT40>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I'm now having problems with 5.0.15 on some older Linux operating
> systems (in addition to the SCO Unix installs).  On a Red Hat 7 box,
> when I try to run 5.0.15 I get this error:
> 
>   "lib/libc.s0.6 version GLIBC_2.3 not found" 
> 
> Is this part of the libtermcap.so.2 that I have been told must be
> installed or is something separate and different.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Walker
> RAM Systems Corp.
> ScottWalker at RAMSystemsCorp.com
> Ph: (704) 896-6549
> Fx: (704) 896-7458
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:40:07 -0500
> From: "John Esak" <john at valar.com>
> Subject: RE: Error Message
> To: "'Filepro-List at Lists. Celestial. Com'"
> 	<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Message-ID: <200712010340.lB13e8Wl086246 at admin114.securesites.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> That was not CompuServe... that was *this* forum... and it was David
> "somebody" forget his last name.. who said the next time he saw me he would
> put on his ghi and judo me to death or some such.   :-)  
> 
> John
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com
> > [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com] On Behalf
> > Of Kenneth Brody
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:27 PM
> > To: Henry Melancon
> > Cc: filePro Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: Error Message
> > 
> > Quoting Henry Melancon (Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:44:08 -0600):
> > 
> > > You guys are not nice, but I love it!!!!
> > >
> > > My IT guy deserves it!!!!
> > [...]
> > 
> > If you think this is "not nice", you haven't been here very long, have
> > you?  :-)
> > 
> > Of course, nothing compares to the "good old days" of CompuServe/TANGENT,
> > when a couple of the members (who are still on this list, BTW) got to the
> > point of threatening physical harm if they were to run into each other.
> > 
> > --
> > KenBrody at BestWeb dot net        spamtrap: <g8ymh8uf001 at sneakemail.com>
> > http://www.hvcomputer.com
> > http://www.fileProPlus.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Filepro-list mailing list
> > Filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list
> 
> 
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