Simon--er, no...it was J. P. Radley--said: > Well, that reminds me of nothing so much as people who put only gin and > ice in a glass, and still have the chutzpah to call it a martini. I think that could qualify as just VERY dry vermouth, no? :) mark-> -- print("Content-Type: person/now-desceased\n\n"); # The only good MIME is a dead MIME.