More fP sockets pricing insanity
Kenneth Brody
kenbrody at bestweb.net
Wed Nov 29 10:20:41 PST 2006
Quoting Fairlight (Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:10:50 -0500):
> Only Kenneth Brody would say something like:
> >
> > The website also doesn't clarify the fact that filePro will, in
> > fact, run on a Friday the 13th under a full moon.
>
> True. :)
>
> > Now, if you had told me that you got the misconception based on
> > something from the website, or even from something that fPTech
> > had said, I would agree that the website should do something to
> > correct it. To say that the website should clarify something
> > that, until now, no one has ever said (AFAIK), is asking a bit
> > much, don't you think?
>
> Not really. The problem is that "user" has been a nebulous and often
> misleading term when used in the context of fP. SYSTEM() calls to clerk
> or report prior to 5.6 are one issue. Concurrent use of those programs
> under multiplexors other than FacetWin are another;
But is has never been the case that a single dclerk would count as
more than one for anything.
> Bud, in a move that I consider sheer ignorance, flat-out told Jay
> publicly that screen(1) will never be supported as a single user--
> that's in the list archives for anyone that cares to look.
As I recall, under screen(1) it is not possible to determine that
two processes are actually connected to the same physical terminal.
> There -is- a history here that basically amounts to, "Any time
> 'something' accesses fP, even if it's fP itself, it's considered a
> 'user'."
But it has never been the case that "any time filePro accesses
'something', it's considered a 'user'". You're not talking about
some daemon starting up lots of dclerks -- you're talking about a
single dclerk connecting to multiple sockets.
> And 5.6 being so new and hardly adopted yet, it isn't enough to
> reverse a multiple-decade-long historical trend entrenched in the
> minds of the community.
I haven't heard anyone else come to your original assumption that
every time you call SOCKET(), you eat another license.
> So when someone says "user" under filePro, one could very, very easily
> draw the conclusion that anyone accessing a server written in fP using
> sockets is one "user" per connection,
AFAIK, you're the only one who jumped to that conclusion. Again, it
has never been the case that a single dclerk has counted for more than
one of anything.
[...]
> So to answer your question, yes, I feel if they want to avoid such
> misunderstandings, it behooves them to state the specs outright and
> verbosely. Inadvertantly or not, they've misled people for years on the
> user count issue; there's no reason to further shoot themselves in the
> foot just by being nebulous.
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