Just a heads-up for those who haven't used this option lately. I have an application, using odbc 1.0.13 in which I am using "outs" Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 (Win Xp Pro with add-ons) SP2 PCI soft Data Fax Modem with smart CP Comm 3 PFOUTS = 3,56800,8,n,1 Works just as it did under DOS. Richard Kreiss GCC Consulting