Desperate plea to FP Tech...

Fri Jan 20 12:38:32 PST 2006

AMEN! That would be a big Yea from me.

Something like this just makes sense.  
Humans are naturally afraid of being in the dark. 
It's the reason our biological predecessors learned to
create fire.  For the light!  If there is not a gleam
of "light" from FP for the future of what is to come
then many will surely see another light from other
sources to handle their needs in the future.  

-Ivan
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com] On
> Behalf Of John Esak
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:57 PM
> To: Fplist (E-mail)
> Cc: filepro at fptech.com
> Subject: Desperate plea to FP Tech... 
> 
> 
> Just a quick note... not meant in a "defensive"
> way... but I see that
> everyone want more screen space. I will just say...
> that even if I *had*
> it... I would *never* use it. The 80x24 scheme is
> perfect for what we do.
> When the user fills any screen and wants/needs to
> add more data, other
> screens are popped-up or switched-to with ease.
> Sometimes displaying other
> important data from previously finished screens.
> This would be
> hard-to-impossible with vertically scrolling
> screens. I *like* the full
> control and use it to very good advantage. I have
> never had complaints about
> speed/visibility of data or anything regarding the
> 80x24 limitation. I just
> think it is important to voice my decidedly
> different approach.
> 
> I feel much of why people want more screen space is
> because of the spate of
> controls available on GUI screens. Listboxes,
> buttons, radio buttons,
> checkboxes, etc., all take up lots of room... and
> though they shrink and
> expand at the pull of a window corner... new stuff
> does not appear.
> 
> Now, as for scrolling fields... YES... that would be
> great. Not only for
> viewing, of course, but for data entry. Now
> seriously... these are available
> in filePro itself in at least two places (Define
> Edits, and Print Code
> Maintenance.) Can't this be easily
> mushed/pushed/programmed into filePro
> itself? Ken, I hate to call you to task... :-), but
> in late after-hours of
> one of the town meetings, you
> inferred/implied/hinted/as-much-as-said that
> *we* the users don't have this scrolling field
> ability yet, but *you* do.
> :-) Does this mean that this feature is not far away
> from being added to
> filePro should it be brought to a front burner?
> 
> And this brings up I have to say... what I think is
> the absolute _crux_ of
> *all* the list traffic for the past week or so.  In
> a succinct nutshell...
> and the subject of this message. How about if
> everyone just lets me ramble
> on for a moment... and then instead of adding
> thousands of more words to
> what I'm going to propose... everyone restrains
> themselves no matter what it
> takes and just puts a simple reply to this
> suggestion of "Yay" or "Nay". If
> this can happen, I think FP Tech will be benefited
> greatly... by seeing a
> clear petition approved by the members here in
> overwhelming agreement... and
> this as you read on and see, will get us all what I
> think we need. Here I
> go...
> 
> Now, and I really mean *now* is the time for FP Tech
> to release a list of
> what you have coming up in the forefront for new
> filePro features. Please,
> please, please... send out to the web site, or to
> this forum or to
> anywhere... a prioritized list of what will be
> coming in 5.6, 5.7, 6.0...
> onward. All I can hear are what sound like desperate
> screams and pleas from
> dedicated filePro developers for *some* idea of what
> is going to happen. I
> know there have been problems in the past with
> promises of features and then
> non-delivery causing huge hassles... ODBC going 5
> years after promise date
> being the single and main real problem there... but
> forget that! I believe
> filePro is at one of those watershed moments which
> is going to strongly
> influence its future. You need to forget the dare I
> say it... *stupidity*...
> and *mismanagement* of the people who ran things in
> the past. Get out there
> *now* and tell everyone *directly* what it is you
> are doing, what you have
> in mind... and what we can *hope* to expect for our
> chosen product in the
> near and even distant future. People are telling you
> over and over again if
> you don't give them some idea and relative time
> frames, they are going to
> jump ship now!  Stop them, by doing this...
> please???????  I'll cc this to
> filepro at fptech.com as Ken's suggestion to ask things
> like this on this list
> is not appropriate or beneficial. I only put it here
> to see if I'm not wrong
> that this is the *current* central issue ... and ...
> getting such a
> *prioritized* list isn't a damn good way to answer
> and *resolve* the issue.
> It may not be the only way, but I can't think of
> anything else at this
> point.
> 
> <if_you_need_an_analogy>
> It's much like Bush just letting the "liberals"
> lambaste him and his policy
> in Iraq forever without saying one word in his own
> defense. *Finally*, he
> got out there and reminded people why we are
> there... basically to bring
> sanity and civilized behavior to a critically
> *needed* region of the world
> that somehow haven't been able to find it themselves
> in 10,000 years of
> human history. If the region wasn't *critical* (oil)
> I realize we wouldn't
> be there, and there is no one on the planet who
> hates more as much as I do
> (and I would guess Bush hates it as much or more
> than I do... having the
> responsibility on his head for all the horrible,
> senseless death and
> injury)... but until we can have a stable and fair
> society over there that
> doesn't treat 50%  of its population (the women)
> like dogs... and 98% of it
> worse than that (the non-Saddamists). There isn't
> going to be any stability
> as to who is guarding the pump at our life's blood
> well... again oil.
> Whenever opposition gets over-the-top in its
> criticism... he has to stand up
> and defend what he (and we) are doing over there.
> It's a tough explanation,
> because most people don't want to hear how
> neccessary the sacrifice is...
> but nevertheless he has to do it.
> 
> In the same way, it's time... really very, very past
> time (okay pasta time
> :-) that FP Tech divulges a game plan... and a
> pretty darn clear one at
> that. If there are things filePro will *never* (like
> font-size changing),
> state them. If there are functions that can not be
> implemented because the
> basic engine of filePro can't do them, state that...
> but for God's sake,
> state some of the things filePro can and will do
> inthe future... for those
> of us married to a character-based system... you are
> the only game in town.
> We have to know what to expect. We can decide if the
> sacrifice will be too
> great. You have to let the chips fall where they may
> and let the people who
> can see the larger picture of things agree or
> disagree. They will stay or
> leave whether or not you make this plan
> disclosure... but be pro-active and
> put it out there and I'm betting less will leave.
> </if_you_need_an_analogy>
> 
> >From my point of view... you *know* I have already
> purchased 5.6... and I
> will purchase any upcoming release after that. For
> developmental planning,
> however, like everyone else who is screaming for it
> here... I need to know
> what I can expect. Not just along the 80x24 screen
> size issue, or the
> printing memos issue, or the subscripts for *port
> values issue... not for
> any individual's pet idea of what would make filePro
> perfect 
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