OT: btld problem??
SmittyUSN1 at aol.com
SmittyUSN1 at aol.com
Mon Aug 14 11:55:53 PDT 2006
No Offense Brian....
I just know this is going to arouse the list fairy but I just had to say I
have a plastic drawer full (10 at least) of USB memory sticks, jumpdrives,
etc.etc., ver 1.0 & 2.0 , asst. meg sizes, the best one is my Lexar 2gig stick
(holds a raft of fp files). Every stick in the drawer will work right now on
any Windows box, USB equipped customer I have (about a dozen) for the last 5-6
years....groan.
I just had to say something good here about Windows (XP anyway) as it takes
a thorough beating in here.
I can imagine the pain in the Linux (mulitple versions), SCO (couple of
versions) that a technical advancement like the USB memory stick is, it must
cause havoc in maintaining the drivers base in the assorted OPS.
Well now that I got that off my chest ....yall get back to it.
Wayne Smith
Port Orange, Florida
In a message dated 8/14/2006 2:35:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
brian at aljex.com writes:
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Esak" <john at valar.com>
To: "Fplist (E-mail)" <filepro-list at seaslug.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: OT: btld problem??
>I hope not! It is brand new USB drive. It makes a nice sounding click
>when
> accessed. :-)
>
> Don't know what's up, but I *have* to solve this today!!!
>
> John
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com
>> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com]On
>> Behalf Of Fairlight
>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:29 AM
>> To: Fplist (E-mail)
>> Subject: Re: OT: btld problem??
>>
>>
>> Bad floppy drive?
>>
>> mark->
Don't you have to do something more than usual for it to see the usb floppy?
Yes it partially sees it because the ldrive turns on, but that doesn't mean
all parts of the process know about the unusual device.
Somewhere in there you have to specify that the drive is fd(64) (or whatever
the number is) instead of the built in default 60 (or whatever the number
is). You must have already done that to some extent in order to get as far
as you are, but I'm thinking it just needs the same sort of override to be
specified in even more places than you've already done. I don't have any
idea what exactly you might have to do though and I don't think thats a
problem either because I think this is the better advice:
Myself, I just plain don't use anything usb on 506. I doesn't matter that a
minimum level of support supposedly exists after sufficient patching. I
don't consider it a practical or viable facility in 506 in general. If it
requires this much hassle to use, it's wrong to try and use it and then rely
on it for anything important. It hinders and endangers emergency operations
at the very least. Install a real floppy drive or install a different OS or
don't use that server for that job. JP spent, how long?, getting 506 or 507
loaded onto a compaq laptop a while back. That was a painful and time
consuming experiment on a non-production personal laptop and thats about the
only context that I'd consider trying to use usb on osr5 (even 507). Since
you say you "must figure this out today" that doesn't sound like a
non-production experiment box. His main problem I beleive was also needing
to use a usb floppy, and he ended up having to burn his own customized
install cd instead!
Also there is the fact that the usb drivers are notoriously flaky and
problem ridden in both linux and freebsd, even today after usb has been
around several years. A lot of things do work ok but a lot of things don't,
others require manual hacking, others only work at a snails pace because of
fundamental differences between the way Windows vs any-ix operates, others
crash or hang the system due to interrupt storms or missed interrupts.
Mostly these things get found out and fixes or work-arounds are out there to
be googled up, but in my opinion there is a fundamental problem that this is
just not robust stuff in general. Hardware or software. And there is
practically no anecdotal experience out there about the usb drivers under
osr5 but it is a fact that they appeared with 506 or rs506a and so they are
brand new.
If it is even possible and you do figure it out, thats great since it's
valuable knowledge. But I'd consider that knowledge to be something good to
have in your toolbox to save your butt on that oddball unavoidable occasion.
Not something you'd do given any choice. Good Luck.
Brian K. White -- brian at aljex.com -- http://www.aljex.com/bkw/
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