fP modernization

Fri Apr 28 10:00:19 PDT 2006

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Esak" <john at valar.com>
To: "Fplist (E-mail)" <filepro-list at seaslug.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: fP modernization

>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com
>> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com]On Behalf Of Anthony
>> Terrible
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:54 PM
>> To: File Pro List
>> Subject: Re: fP modernization
>
> [snip]
>>
>> Well while I agree with what you said, my take is Fp did speak about the
>> future, and it was biometrics, not File Pro. And lets be honest,
>> File Pro is
>> so far behind the times, it would take and enormous amount of money and
>> effort to bring to where it needs to be and to what, go head to head with
>> Oracle, Microsoft, and IBM? Might as well put a gun to your head.
>
> This is kind of "exactly" the kind of thing I hadn't wanted to start in 
> any
> way with my move-to-Linux message and its look toward the future... glad 
> it
> is in this thread not mine... Now, let's see, glad is not really the word.
> More like *mad*... angry... annoyed... pissed off. Mark was trying to make
> legitimate (and courteous) remarks regarding his outlook on the product 
> this
> forum is all about. You, on the other hand, are just irritating and
> obviously just want to be that and nothing more. Where is the substance in
> your statement. Do you actually think people here who use filePro and care
> about it, *want* to hear the kind of thing you spit out with such venom. 
> I'm
> doubting very much that anyone cares what you think when you throw out 
> such
> inanities as filePro has to go head-to-head with Oracle, Microsoft _and_
> IBM. Huh? What an utterly stupid comment. I don't know anything about you,
> your background, your company or care... but I'm willing to bet just about
> any amount of money (whatever you can afford) that *you* nor the company 
> you
> work for *has* an Oracle system. Please send me a copy of the sales 
> receipt
> for that system and we can set up the wager. Your mouth is all you have 
> and
> judging by the last messages you sent about filePro over the past year as
> well... you can't seem to just leave filePro (and/or) this list and go 
> away.
> Why not?
>
> Before answering in your usual blustering, angry, vile way... consider who
> here might want to hear what you have to say. My strong suggestion is make
> it constructive criticism, or take it somewhere else... and I don't care 
> if
> even one other person on this list agrees with me. Go away.
>
> You asked that we "be honest". If you can't do any better with your
> comments, than I can't do better than that.
>
> John Esak
> The Valar Group

I thought long and hard before I decided to answer your obscene response to 
my post. I mean really I don't think what came from your mouth even deserves 
a response because frankly you showed your ignorance and fears. And don't 
give yourself any credit for offending me because you can't. My response is 
only to show that your answer to my post, and most people of this list 
defending File Pro on this list, is based totally in fear. Fear that if File 
Pro goes away you won't have a job any more. Actually I fell sorry for you.

1) I did NOT bash File Pro in my post. Mark made very good points to the 
question that was asked and as I stated, I agree. I just disagreed with his 
take on information about the future of File Pro from FP Tech. To me, that 
was very clear in the post from the CEO that he is NOT going to put any 
effort, time or money into File Pro because there is no future in it. That 
to me is a very good business decision. He will support it for now because 
it does generate an income but he is not going out of his way. People 
responded to the list when that was posted and had the same take so I know 
I'm not alone but even if I am I really don't care. I know your anal 
retentive and you have that post so I suggest you go back and read it and 
this time with an open mind if you can do that.

2) Your right you don't know anything about me. So let me tell you. As I 
stated many many times in my posts, I think you guys are better programmers 
than I and certainly know more about Operating Systems than I. My expertise 
is in the automotive field. 40 years worth. I taught myself computer 
programming but not until the 90's. And guess what, it was File Pro. The 
reason I'm on this list is because the company I work for still uses this 
antiquated piece of software. For the last 6 months or so I have been 
involved in a project that has showed me that modern development tools and 
databases are light years ahead of File Pro and in our changing industry I 
believe we need that technology. And I have taught myself that.

3) You know what I really find funny about you guys. Is your afraid. You are 
scared to death that File Pro will go away and you will loose your job. You 
are so blinded by your fear that you can't see your real worth. That is the 
knowledge of what needs to be done, how it needs to be done, and the 
business your in. That just because you had to hire programmers that write 
in C++ or some thing doesn't mean your job would go away. You would be the 
one everyone relied on to tell them what needed to be done and how. Your 
looking at the glass being half empty and I'm looking at as being half full. 
John, I surmise that your employer has the utmost faith in you and your 
abilities and that you are doing him and his, your company a great 
disservice by keeping them on File Pro. 1, they can't do what you could do 
with modern programming tools, 2, what are they going to do when you retire? 
You think it's going to cost money now to change, wait until your not 
around. Good luck trying to find someone who can program in a langue that 
was written before they were born. It's a good thing I'm not your boss cause 
I'd fire your dumb ass right now for not thinking toward the future. Your 
only thinking about yourself because of your fears. That's both sad and 
pathetic.

4) And for all of you, you guys seem to think that you can't do custom 
programming in any thing other than File Pro. Are you all stupid? I just 
read a post today talking about oh, one of my customers convinced his 
partners to stay with File Pro because we could get things changed quickly, 
blah blah blah, that with on off the shelf system, (I assume that to mean 
Oracle or Microsoft) and would take weeks months. Yeah, your right. But what 
about you? If you did anything other than File Pro you would still be able 
to service them and the time to effect changes would be the same or less.

5) And John you are right about one thing. I want to go away. But I can't 
because the company I work for still has people like you that are afraid of 
change. You guys are pathetic. You all have you gigahertz computers, cell 
phones, palm computers, GPS's and yet you think File Pro is the cats ass. I 
have watched all my life people like you, we don't need to go into space, we 
don't need computers on cars, we don't need fuel injection, etc. I am so 
glad that even though I'm old I haven't stopped learning or moving ahead 
with progress. Unlike you. I believe you were once on the cutting edge of 
technology, making computers from old transistor radios and such, now your 
just an old codger. So go ahead now stick your head in the sand, block my 
posts, bad mouth me in your chat room I don't really care. Because you see, 
I don't want to be like you or the others stuck in a rut in the past. I'm 
going to move forward and enjoy all that life and technology has to offer. 
So stay with File Pro you guys, have a nice lonely life. Oh and let me know 
when FP Tech finally pulls the plug, that's a conversation with your 
superiors I really want to hear. I bet you'll look really brilliant.