Filepro-list Digest, Vol 21, Issue 71

[Steve R.]

Thanks for all the good advice ! This is a great board.


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>    1. filePro users in Georgia ? (Steve R.)
>    2. RE: filePro users in Georgia ? (John Esak)
>    3. RE:  filePro Users in Georgia? (Transpower)
>    4. Re: filePro Users in Georgia? (Fairlight)
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>Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:07:18 +0000
>From: "Steve R." <jarapo at hotmail.com>
>Subject: filePro users in Georgia ?
>To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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>Howdy all,
>
>My current employer is moving from filePro to one of the major players
>(oracle, sql server) which means I'll most likely be looking for a new job
>soon. I have about 15 years programming experience using  filepro (SCO Unix
>and Windows environments); I'm in the Atlanta area area if anyone has any
>idea's or would like more details on my past projects .
>
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>Thanks
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:01:06 -0400
>From: "John Esak" <john at valar.com>
>Subject: RE: filePro users in Georgia ?
>To: "Fplist (E-mail)" <filepro-list at seaslug.org>
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>Steve,
>My daughter Robin did filePro programming for about 10 years for her 
>current
>employer, who then switched to Oracle.  She made up her mind to leran *it*
>and they helped by sending her to a few classes. It has been 5 years since
>that (unbelievably rough) both for her and the organization, but they are
>both very happy now and she, I'm sure, barely remembers filePro. Why not do
>the same. You certainly can learn Oracle and you *know* the filePro, so you
>would/should be the/a likely candidate to help in what (I guarantee) will
>also be a rough (and long) transition period. If your employer thinks
>otherwise, have them check with people and organizations like the one Robin
>works for... they will hear nothing but horror stories about Oracle I
>promise you. In any case, since the die apparently seems cast, why not make
>the most of it, you're not feeling like an "old dog" are you?
>
>John
>
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> > [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com]On Behalf Of Steve R.
> > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:07 AM
> > To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Subject: filePro users in Georgia ?
> >
> >
> > Howdy all,
> >
> > My current employer is moving from filePro to one of the major players
> > (oracle, sql server) which means I'll most likely be looking for
> > a new job
> > soon. I have about 15 years programming experience using  filepro
> > (SCO Unix
> > and Windows environments); I'm in the Atlanta area area if anyone has 
>any
> > idea's or would like more details on my past projects .
> >
> >
> > Thanks
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:11:19 -0400
>From: Transpower <transpower at aol.com>
>Subject: RE:  filePro Users in Georgia?
>To: filepro-list at seaslug.org
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>I, too, find this very annoying.  I've spent many years mastering both
>filePro and FileMaker, and so it's very discouraging when most of the
>job offers specify SQL Server or Oracle.  Actually, it's more than
>annoying, it's disgusting.  These companies are clueless.
>
>Regards,
>Ron Satz
>Transpower Corporation, transpower at aol.com, www.transpowercorp.com
>Certified Systems Engineering and Commercial/Custom Software
>      Manufacturing Since 1976
>
>Steve R. wrote on 10/29/2005, 11:07 AM:
>
>  > Howdy all,
>  >
>  > My current employer is moving from filePro to one of the major players
>  > (oracle, sql server) which means I'll most likely be looking for a new
>  > job
>  > soon. I have about 15 years programming experience using  filepro (SCO
>  > Unix
>  > and Windows environments); I'm in the Atlanta area area if anyone has 
>any
>  > idea's or would like more details on my past projects .
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  >
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:07:20 -0400
>From: Fairlight <fairlite at fairlite.com>
>Subject: Re: filePro Users in Georgia?
>To: filepro-list at seaslug.org
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>At Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 08:11:19PM -0400 or thereabouts,
>suspect Transpower was observed uttering:
> > I, too, find this very annoying.  I've spent many years mastering both
> > filePro and FileMaker, and so it's very discouraging when most of the
> > job offers specify SQL Server or Oracle.  Actually, it's more than
> > annoying, it's disgusting.  These companies are clueless.
>
>That's a blanket generalisation that is bound to be proven false in a fair
>amount of cases.
>
>Perhaps they simply need something more scalable than fP, as well as less
>specialised.  Read: Something they can get anyone decently qualified
>and looking for a job as a DBA/programmer to do, rather than someone
>that's been mired in the same product for 20 years no matter how many
>miracles they can work with said product--people of which there are a very
>limited supply by comparison.  If you were putting together (or massively
>extending) an fP solution these days, you'd be hard pressed to be able
>to hire -one- person that's actually qualified to do it well, and that
>one person can only do so much so quickly--even with RAD tools.  You can
>easily fill lots of seats around the project's conference table by using
>better-known industry-standard products at the core of the project, and do
>a massive job fairly quickly.  Might cost a tonne, but if they have the
>money and reason to do it, that's their CFO's problem.
>
>I won't even start on the interoperability issues with fP--I'll leave
>that to Walter, since he's been carrying that torch quite nicely lately.
>They're hardly state secrets (or new) anyway.
>
>It may be discouraging and disappointing, but it's also reality.  I find
>that's often the primary definition of reality, actually.
>
>mark->
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