FW: OT: broken/useless ansi - console driver??

[John Esak]

Yes, bill runs the filePro list and lots of other things on his server(s) as
well.
John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Stauble [mailto:dave at soundideas.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:32 AM
> To: john at valar.com
> Subject: Re: FW: OT: broken/useless ansi - console driver??
>
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for forwarding this but I've found it best to use two
> steps - one to
> compile and get all the errors out, and another to actually copy
> the binary
> to its "installed location" so I can run it through inetd.  The
> simple copy
> is now the problem (and I'll end up writing a program that checks
> ps if they
> don't fix it soon).
>
> It's nice he tried to help though.  Does he host the filePro list
> on his own
> server?
>
> Dave
>
> --------------- Original Message ---------------
> At 12:37P Mon Oct 24 2005, John Esak wrote:
>
> > FYI
> > (I know you know this, though.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com
> > [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com]On Behalf Of Bill
> > Campbell
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:26 PM
> > To: Fplist (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: OT: broken/useless ansi - console driver??
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2005, John Esak wrote:
> > ...
> > >It's even more hassle for others than myself...here is a
> forwarded message
> > >from a friend.
> > >
> > >....
> > >
> > >John,
> >
> > >This issue is even more serious than I previously thought (at
> least for me)
> > >because when writing server programs, I have to code and test, code and
> > >test and I used to get an error when trying to place a new
> version over a
> > >running one (because the PC side is already connected - very
> common), but
> > >now it just copies without an error then I get a core dump by
> the server in
> > >the background and everything crashes.  I thought the issue
> would only come
> > >up with software installs, but for me, it can be tons of times
> in a day.
> > >Now I know why I always seem to have a recent /core file with OS6...
> >
> > >Now I have to be super careful to stop everything before I
> copy over every
> > >single recompiled version (which is every few minutes for me).  VERY
> > >tedious.
> >
> > Not to diminish the gravity of this change in behaviour, I would suggest
> > that one's installation procedure should take this into account
> by moving
> > the old executable to a backup name before replacing the
> compiled binary,
> > something like this in a Makefile:
> >
> > BINARY = progname
> >
> > $(BINARY): $(SOURCES)
> >         # build something resulting in $(BINARY).new
> >         mv $(BINARY) $(BINARY).bak
> >         mv $(BINARY).new $(BINARY)
> >
> > This has the advantage that if the new one is broken, it's easy
> to move the
> > backup copy back to the real binary location.  It shouldn't
> break running
> > programs (at least on *nix systems) as the paging mechanism should be
> > looking at the inode, not at the file name to determine where the
> > executable is.  I have no idea how the Windows virus would
> handle this as I
> > don't do Windows.
> >
> > Bill
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> >
> > The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common.
> > Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts
> > to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to
> > be one of the facts that needs altering.
> >                 -- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
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