The FP Room - yay or nay?

John Esak john at valar.com
Sat Nov 12 19:19:17 PST 2005


I'll top post...

The room has several recording mechanisms, text, browser, audio. When we bat
about program verbaly, we are also typing in code and sometimes showing
pages that apply. On the whole, we solve probelms in minutes, not days...
and it is immediate. You're right a quick talk with Dennis would have solved
that long mailing list thread in a few seconds to a minute I would guess...
with typed in examples, that he could cut and paste into place. Dennis uses
the room frequently. I don't know why he didn't in that slash/backslash
case.

As for FP Tec giving me product. :-)  Heheheh, that's pretty good.

The economics of it helping me sell anything don't apply. I don't talk about
the CD's in the room... at least not that I can recall. I do hear people who
come on to tell me how much they like them... and that is always nice. But,
I don't say go and watch movie 129... to solve your problem. :-)   (I only
did that recently on the NEXTDIR thing... because I *did* put up a full
code-example @arrays sometime in the very near past... and it does get old
going over the very same thing from week to month to year.

It sure would be good if people did distill out all the "free" stuff that
has been here. That would be a boon for everyone. Until then my selling a
couple CD sets a month takes up a big "need" as far as I can see... and it's
not like I hate money.

John





> -----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com]On Behalf Of Walter
> Vaughan
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 7:33 PM
> To: filePro
> Subject: Re: The FP Room - yay or nay?
>
>
> John Esak wrote:
>
> > Does the FP Room add
> > to, or detract from this mailing list?
>
> It's been the only place that I know of that TPTB at fpTech have
> communicated
> with developers in the last two years. So it has added.
>
> > Is it helpful? Should it stay around?
>
> It's more a social gathering place. The mailing list forces (or
> should force
> you) to think through your problem. On the otherhand, and example
> of what could
> have been solved in minutes ended up taking days was Dennis
> Malen's postings a
> week ago.
>
> > Is it worth the rather enormous effort of the various people who give so
> > much time so generously to its working and well being?
>
> For me, no. I've depended upon searching the 75k messages in this
> mailing list I
> have. Discussing something (e.g. NEXTDIR) in the chatroom doesn't
> leave a trail
> that I can look at in a month/year when *I* need to use it.
>
> I know of no other commercial software package where the
> majority/entirety of
> the online support is end user controlled/supported.
>
> > How many of you
> > want to see it stay around?
>
> Keep it around if it makes economical sense for you (help selling
> your CD's) or
> fpTech feeds you software to compensate you for your expenses.
>
> > this is your time to speak up.
>
> I guess this is when I am to say yay!
>
> > I'll poll the others who use the room and don't
> > use or know about this list via other means.
>
> How in the world is it possible that they found out about the
> room and not this
> list?
>
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