It must be on my side, but how??

[Fairlight]

On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 03:23:20PM -0400, John Esak may or may not have
proven themselves an utter git by pronouncing:
> Okay, I got this... however, Rick at a completely different domain and
> address also did not get the messages from Richard Kreiss and Charlie Day...
> both of which were double posted to me _and_ the list. (They were cc'd to
> the fplist). I didn't get them, he didn't get them. Did you get them? There
> were several others.

I saw your reply to Richard's mail on the list, but not the originating
post.  If the list archives are anything to go by (I don't keep everything
from here--just what I think I'll need at hand), Richard supposedly hasn't
made a posting since last Thursday:

 http://diablo.celestial.com/pipermail/filepro-list/2005-May/date.html
 http://diablo.celestial.com/pipermail/filepro-list/2005-June/date.html

Charles posted at 8:32am today, although I don't remember reading it.  (No
offense, Charles--i was barely conscious this morning, as someone with
whom I was on the phone would attest to).  I still don't see anything from
Richard later than last Thursday.

No messages from their respective addresses got bounced for authorisation
to my memory, and I did check my mail last night and this morning.
Multiple times.

Query:  Did the one from Charles have headers from Celestial, or was it
definitely the direct one that you received.  Knowing the path might
corroborate a problem with the list, or might let it stay ambiguous.  I
think we just established that Richard's got lost unless it's sitting in
an inbound spool so far.  (He's listed as GCC in the last one available by
date for May, for reference.)

I just approved Rick's post.  The HTTP side of the machine's list
functionality is acting about 10x slower than normal.  It's conceivable
it's under heavy load and hasn't gotten to a few things yet.  But that
would mean it hasn't hit mailman yet, and is still in an inbound spool.
It's happened before, and when it has, it's been amvisd that seems to have
gotten out of whack, based on anecdotal memory.  However, it's obviously
still passing -some- messages, which indicates it's not totally wedged.

I'm afraid only Bill Campbell can give the comprehensive answer for part of
this.  But check your headers on the copy of Charles' mail and see which
one hit your box.  I'm not even sure it's the -same- one as hit the list
archives.

mark->

> 
> John
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com
> > [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com]On Behalf Of Fairlight
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:34 PM
> > To: Fplist (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: It must be on my side, but how??
> >
> >
> > "Top-posted, for his comfort."
> >
> > Hmmm.  Almost sounds like a procmail order of precedence issue.  Or
> > actually, if you were to get two copies...do you have anything in there
> > that dumps duplicates based on Message ID?  That would do it.
> >
> > My question would be (and it didn't seem clear to me, so forgive if it was
> > meant to be obvious), is the "system" (whomever's) dropping messages that
> > are not dual-addressed to both you and the list?  For instance, this will
> > be sent only to the list--I'll ensure that.  Did you get this one?  If so,
> > then it definitely puts it somewhere inside your system and excludes the
> > list.
> >
> > Matter of fact, I'm stripping out -all- references to your private address
> > from the quoted reply so that no filter can latch onto it.  Should be a
> > pure test, so even a body-scan won't snag on it.
> >
> > Any other mailing lists you're on that are behaving similarly?
> >
> > mark->
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 12:44:09PM -0400, John Esak, the prominent pundit,
> > witicized:
> > >
> > > I have been getting my own mail which I send to the list... I have been
> > > getting very little other mail from the list. Today, once again
> > I just got
> > > several pieces of mail directed to both my address
> > XXXX at XXXXX.com and the
> > > XXXXXXXXXXXX@ address of the mailing list.  Only the ones directed to me
> > > came on my system. The others are just not here. I would
> > suspect a filter
> > > going strange, but why is my own mail passing through to the
> > right foler?
> > > This is too strange.
> > >
> > > For example, today, Charlie Day and Richard Kreiss both sent
> > mail that only
> > > my private address caught. I have seen nothing of those two
> > messages on the
> > > list. I responded to them just now in case they aren't showing
> > up for anyone
> > > else either.
> > >
> > > The funny thing is just today I got my monthly announcement
> > from the list
> > > saying that my account is in good standing... Of course, I got
> > this in the
> > > XXXX at XXXXX.com mailbox not the filepro folder where I direct
> > filePro List
> > > mail...
> > >
> > > Is anything like this happening to others?
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