File Pro And Bus Errors

Fairlight fairlite at fairlite.com
Fri Jul 8 13:27:44 PDT 2005


On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:59:40PM -0400, after drawing runes in goat's blood,
J. Ryan Kelley cast forth these immortal, mystical words:
> 
> I actually didn't "learn" this while getting my cs degree.  This is 
> something I've picked up from the filepro "community", many of whom seem 
> to use the terms interchangably.  Hence, your attempt to insult my 
> intelligence by questioning the validity of my education is unfounded.  
> I took 4 semesters of C, along with one semester of C++.  Four semesters 
> of C seems like a lot, but when you realize that about one and a half of 
> those semesters were spent writing a basic operating system, it's not so 
> bad.

Yes, well, I took -no- C courses, learned from books and a decent mentor,
and knew the difference between a bus error, a segfault, and their probable
causes inside of -two months-.  I don't know how anyone could mess about
with C to any degree (and do -any- amount of debugging) and -not- know the
fundamental likely causes, or the distinction between the two.

As for the fP community using the terms interchangeably, consider the
source.  There are probably about 10-20 people out of the ~300 on this
list that know C from Zed.  The majority of the community appears to be
concerned only with fP, their applications written in it, and the barest
minimal necessary skillset to get the platforms upon which it runs up
and going to the point that fP installs and runs--which is all fine and
well until someone tries to elucidate something they don't understand
properly.  That the majority decided the two terms are interchangeable
doesn't surprise me--to a 4GL applications-only person, a crash by any
other name is still a crash, and half of the people can't be bothered to
report all the pertinent details of one, much less know what they actually
mean.

But I'd expect better from someone that claims to -know- C and have
experience with it--and then base their arguments about fP's stability
on said "experience".  Okay, I'm not questioning the validity of your
formal education, since you straightened out that implication.  As for
insulting you--hey, all I did was point out an error.  If you can't handle
that...not my problem.

mark->
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