OT: Tape less Backup System

[Bill Vermillion]

It was Fri, Jan 21 11:29  when Doug Luurs said "Mia kusenveturilo estas
plena da angiloj. And continued:

> HP VS-80 Library 

OK.  Just looked up specs on that.   Since it's DLT based
what kind of errors are you getting?

For the amount of data I can see that it's a bit small, and also
a bit slow for the amount - it shows 12MB min.  Such things
as the AIT-3 run from about 40-110MB min depending on compression
factors.  Current models are about 200GB per tape - next generation
will be 500GB native, 1TB compressed - but the last time I saw
those were predicted to be at $5K per drive.

The current HD pricing makes backup to HD look very attractive
and locally I just saw a $399 price on 500GB drives.

> Looking at 4 systems (3 windows / SCO Openserver), 2 400G SNAP NAS
> units.  Roughly (Max Cap) 2 Tb

> The main System will be the one that is Hot Swapped (SCO / FP)
> out. (2-4 Drives x 5 - Sounds like a lot, but that is what the
> boss wants .. That's what the boss gets)

The only question I'll ask here is 'the boss' technically savy
enough to make decisions.

> The rest will be Taped more then likely, then moved off-site as we
> do atm.

That makes sense. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Vermillion [mailto:fp at wjv.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:18 AM
> To: Doug Luurs
> Cc: filepro-list at seaslug.org
> Subject: Re: OT: Tape less Backup System
> 
> 
> In the last exciting episode of the filePro saga, 
> Doug Luurs was heard to say:" 
> if: Fri, Jan 21 11:06  
> then: nm = Doug Luurs 
> if:
> then: show nm < "said:"  
> Doug Luurs said: 
> 
> > It's more Statistics then them Actually failing (Which I have not had 
> > any do yet).
> 
> So what tape drives are you using?
> 
> > The System would allow me to do Tape Backups plus the ability to pull 
> > the drives for offsiting.
> > (Hotswap)
> 
> So you would have a duplicate set of drives - their big unit has 24 SATA
> drives - and take a set off-site each week?
> 
> How much data are you backing up?
> 
> 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Vermillion [mailto:fp at wjv.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:04 AM
> > To: Doug Luurs
> > Cc: filepro-list at seaslug.org
> > Subject: Re: OT: Tape less Backup System
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 21 10:43 , while impersonating an expert on the internet,
> > Doug Luurs sent this to stdout: 
> > 
> > > We current do all our backups to tape, and it seems to be getting 
> > > more
> > 
> > > and more Costly every time I need more tape space. (And tapes being
> > > prone to failure more Often then not)
> > 
> > If you have business interuption insurance be sure to check your 
> > policies on data backup.  I had one client who would never make tapes 
> > for off-site storage until he read his policy and found that losses 
> > that were because of lost data were NOT covered unless the data was 
> > stored off-site too.
> > 
> > If you have a policy like that even using the hard disk data storage 
> > devices means they should be off-site.
> > 
> > What tape systems are you using that fail so often? I only ask because
> 
> > I was practically raised on tape in broadcasting, recording, and 
> > computers, and good systems seem to run until you do run out of space.
> > 
> > Bill
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