filePro Programmer shortage
John Esak
john at valar.com
Mon Feb 28 20:06:21 PST 2005
>
> I was in the chat room and tried to clear the air but random
> chance landed
> me a little unfortunate timing and something more important, or more time
> sensitive we'll say, came up right then and I politely let the other
> conversation finish, but I had gotten far enough that there could
> be no doubt
> about my intentions and so when the other business concluded I
> just waited
> to see if he even had any interest in resolving the issue. Nothing.
Normally, I would not post this publicly.... but you are posting shit like
this, so I suppose I have to get down their in the slime with you. I saw
you logged in for many hours a few days ago. At no time did you say
*anything*... and I _know_ this because I was specifically watching for your
comments either text or verbal... none, absolutely none. So, you are either
lying, or something else went on that could explain my not responding to
anything you might say in the room. I talk with anyone and everyone who
comes in and talks, including you as you well know. What a complete ass you
are to say otherwise. (and I might add, there are at least 15 or 20 other
people who frequent the room that know this to be true and would agree with
me about your being an ass... care to try for a count of hands??) Since,
you are probably not a liar, I tend to believe something else happened...
you say you said something to clear the air, I can't guess what that might
be, but you said something came up more urgent while you were talking to cut
you off... Let's see, you were on while Nancy and I were talking about her
DOS question concerning locked files. I had put in a call to Ken Brody about
it and my guess is you might have started to talk jut before that
conversation. When I call someone to put them "on-the-air" so the whole
room can hear them (like Ken or someone else who might be interesting to the
room), I first mute my speakers so they don't hear the chat as I begin the
phone conversation, "Hi, Ken, I'm in the room and Nancy has a question about
'such-and-such', what do you think could be going on...", etc., etc. Then
once the person I've called understands the question and is starting to
respond, I put them directly on mic... and while they're talking I un-mute
my speakers. It probably happened that you decided to "clear the air" just
as I had muted my speakers and dialed up Ken and was talking to him... At
least, that is the only way I can imagine what you describe could happen. If
you spoke any other time during the long while your name was visible, I
*NEVER* heard it. Mark mentioned something like this to me a day or so ago
when he read your email... and I was baffled, so was he... but actually
reading your puny, little whining and sarcastic note myself just now
explains it all. You weren't being ignored, you just weren't being heard by
me... although, in the future, please believe you WILL be thoroughly ignored
by me for throwing out such a misstatement and untruth about how everyone
acts in the room. We are civil and friendly and there is much fun... NEVER,
EVER anything like what you so despicably write here.
> Anyone I give the slightest tenth of a percent of a terd about I either
> apologize or defend whatever applies at the time.
> The only people I completely ignore are the absolute scum of the
> earth. They
> mean so little to me it can't even be expressed effectively. My original
> post to him was nothing but tit-for-tat according to how I saw (and see)
> things. Painful but dammit, fair! People _should_ be held accountable for
> their actions.
> I might be guilty of being _wrong_, and I'm perfectly willing to
> be told so.
> Sure I'll have to be convinced before beleiving it, but, so? But that's a
> later & lighter issue. There's no crime in being wrong once in a
> while or in
> failing to keep your hot head under control once in a while, and
> so just as
> I know I need to be allowed to be wrong on occasion and be
> allowed to live
> through it, I allow others the same courtesy. I don't mark them
> as scum of
> the earth for life the first time they dare express something
> negative about
> me. What he's guilty of now I don't even have polite words for.
> As far as I'm concerned, He's insulted me 1000 times more than I did him.
> Maybe that's his own form of tit-for-tat and that's fine, but
> it's a pretty
> sucky game to play if all that happens is we never talk to each other as
> friends again.
I could not care less about your "politeness"... To be truthful, I have
never really seen evidence of such from you... but I do see your nasty,
imprudent, WRONG words like these above all the time. This is the very
_last_ time they will be about me. At least, this is the last time I will
ever take notice of *anything* you write, be it about me or anything else.
To be so WRONG and then post such utter drivel and trash... Well, it's been
your way on this list ever since you joined it. I will not *ever* let such
shit into the FP Room. I am SO glad you have opted (I hope) not to join us
anymore. As for us not speaking as friends again... hey, you were right for
once. You're allowed to be that, too, every so often. let's let this be one
of those rare times in your life.
John Esak
It's funny how my mail being re-directed by my home system for the past few
days caused you so much grief, funny and poignant because it allowed your
true colors to show through so quickly. I can't believe you actually _have_
lots of friends anyway Brian, you throw them into that "scum of the earth"
category so off-handedly and without any or much provocation at all. In
fact, this time over something only in your own mind. You play so many
games... I saw your name for hours in the room (some of that time with just
me alone as the only other entrant...) and yet you saw fit to not say *one*
word during all that time... nor did you write me a private email, or even
come back into the room another time to state your complaint... Instead, you
come hear and send out your disgusting, self-aggrandizing vomit... You
encapsulate the prime example of why this forum has essentially been
destroyed by your ilk over the past 4 or 5 years... take a look at the
threads you generate... maybe two/three others correspond with you... the
rest generally delete your stuff on contact. At least from now on, that is
what I will most certainly do. There is little hope for this forum as you
persist in your always unwarranted raves. AS for your original comment
regarding my thread with Jose, you have/had your rights to disagree with how
I interpreted things. You could have so stated clearly and without rancor
or malice... much in the way I simply told Bill Vermillion a couple of weeks
ago that I thought he misread one of Nancy's messages to Mark. *He*
responded politely and valuably in another message acknowledging my comment
and restating his concerns. It was professional and reasonable and _correct_
in exactly the way your comments weren't. You should be ashamed of yourself,
but you're so full of yourself, you can't even learn by simple example. I'm
so glad not to have to put up with you any more.
John Esak
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