filePro permissions (was Re: Post-it(R) Notes Mail Message)

[Kenneth Brody]

Quoting Tips (Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:03:26 -0400):

> Hi Ken,
>
> > Then you did something wrong.  Can you define "nothing works" and
> > "permissions problems everywhere"?
>
> After running the permissions script all the files in the filepro folder
> (where the data resides) gets changed to rw------- with filpero as owner
> and group as group.

That is correct.

> File perms in the fp folder is also changed.

Changed to what?

> At this point no one can assess the system except root.

What happens when they try?

> To allow access to other users, I must change the perms in filepro and
> fp to 777, and now they can work.

It may look like it's "working", but it's not.  You have incorrect
permissions, and this will cause problems.  It is not actually
"working".  If it were, you wouldn't be asking us how to solve your
problems.

I understand that putting sugar in the gas tank can make a car "work"
better.

> Now, if I remove a lockfile manually by "rm lock*" or via ddir, the
> first user can access the file, and all others are locked out.  When
> looking at the newly created lockfile its owner is the name of the
> logged in user.

That's because you changed the permissions from what they're supposed
to be.  What are the permissions on the filePro executables?  With the
proper permissions, the lockfile will be recreated owned by "filepro".

> So to allow others access, I must change the owner to filepro and set
> the perms to 777.

No, you mustn't.

> > If you run dclerk and get an error, what are the permissions/ownership
> > of dclerk, as well as the entire tree down to the filename in the
> > error? (And, what is the exact error message?)
>
> I'll have to break it all by running the script in order to give you all
> the details...
>
> Instead of wasting time getting those settings that doesn't work, I'd
> rather focus on setting it up correctly.  After running the script, I'm
> sure the scrip set up everything the way you want it, so what is
> necessary for allowing multiple users access the system?

The permissions set by the script are the permissions necessary to
run multiple users on the system.  (Unless someone/something has
corrupted the script or the file list.)

> What is necessary in filepro creating the removed lockfile with filepro
> being the owner instead of the logged in user?  Any whitepapers and
> links would be greatly appreciated.

All filePro data files are owned by filePro, and the permissions are
set up so that only filePro can access them.

> Is the user "filepro" (uid=201) owner by filepro with no files, not even
> dot files sound right to you?  What are the setting and file list for
> this user?

By "no files", you really mean "no files in the home directory".  This
is not an issue, since filePro doesn't even need a home directory.  It
actually has plenty of files owned by it -- all of those in the filepro
and most of those in fp.

> Is it ever invoked?

Is what ever invoked?

===

> > P.S.  Is it really necessary to include a 100K picture of what your
> > e-mail would look like if it were written on a Post-It note?  Not to
> > mention the subject of the e-mail being unrelated to the message.
>
> I didn't know there was a picture as part of the email, but really what
> is 100k in our content rich world with most web pages exceeding that
> size.

It's a waste of bandwidth.  While one 100K graphic in one e-mail to one
person only wastes 100K, what happens when that one e-mail is sent to
hundreds of mailing list subscribers?  And that's just one e-mail.

You're also likely to have your message rejected by people who filter
out such things.

And don't forget the rather "helpful" subject line that the Post-It
Notes Mail program created for you -- "Post-it(R) Notes Mail Message".

> Machines with supersized harddrives and bandwidth are so cheap now days.

That's assuming that everyone who receives your e-mail has large
bandwidth available.

Note that that's the same logic used by spammers.  (No, I'm not equating
you with spammers.  I'm just saying that the argument is just as invalid
for you as it is for them.)

> Anyway, all aspects of this email was composed, processed, transmitted,
> and archived all within Post-It-Notes, which is probably my most
> valuable application.  It's so much quicker that all the other ways to
> move messages (from the thought till I press send).  It has changed
> everyone's computing life that I've shown it to...

I wonder how useful it is to the recipients, when every e-mail has the
same advertisement as its subject line and in the message itself?

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