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Confusious (Jay Ashworth) say:
> 
> I have several sites for which the uptime standards are ... less strict
> than Brian would like, so yeah, if the site price is low enough.

My opinion is that Mr. White's grasp on reality surprisingly loose.

It's useful for other things besides downtime anyway.  That's -one-
example.  I've seen wall's for far more things than simple downtimes.

> Noted.  There's actually 3 or 4 things I'd like the systray thing to
> do...

Do digress.  The things -I- envision the systray accomodating would be:

1) Launch configuration panel.  (Basically, add/delete hosts to which
   we listen.  Also change the key if we go with a shared key approach.)

2) Deiconify the message window so you can review the history if needs be.

3) Exit the proram entirely.

The history--I don't know, did you want that to be persistant between
sessions?  Easy enough to do.  I'm just not sure it make sense in this
context.  Then again, it may.  If so, a Clear History button (with the
ever-lame confirmation dialogue popup idiom) would be available on the
message window itself.  I don't think it belongs in the systray menu.

> The last 2 are likely good enough; it's bored people I want to protect
> against; if the criminals are on the LAN, you have deeper problems.

Amen.  Not sure I want to work in GPG.  Probably some sort of shared key,
or an internal hashing algorithm that is transmitted and done on both
sides--where it's more complex than a straight hash of the message.
Manipulate, then sign.  Nothing overly complex, but as you say--to keep the
bored at bay.

> > $150 for up to 150 machines at a site, $0.50/machine for each machine over
> > 150, in blocks of 10 machines.  Just a guess--nothing really backing that
> > pricing besides the fact that $1/machine sounds reasonable.  If you have
> > other suggestions, I'm open to them.
> 
> Our sites are fairly small.

Well, fine.  What about $50 for up to 50 machines and $0.75/machine over
that limit?  You're free to make suggestions.

> I'm pretty sure there's some API call to hide yourself.

Yeah, I just need to -find- it.  Then figure out how to call it from
Win32::GUI, as things don't work exactly as you'd think from there.

> As you say, though, going all systray might do it, though I've seen
> programs that do both.  Gnucleus knows how to do this, and I think it's
> GPL...

Well, it's worth a look, if only for the alt-tab removal.  I'll try systray
first.  BTW, I did testing when someone contacted me off-list, and it
-does- get wiped from the alt-tab list when you withdraw the window--AFTER
the first time you hit alt-tab to anything.  It appears the first time the
list is brought forth, but is gone after that point.  I'm not sure if
that's a bug in when I'm doing it, a bug in Tk, or a lack of win32 API use
on my part.  It's livable, but it's not as clean as I mandate, so I need to
fix that.

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