fp on feebsd

Bill Vermillion fp at wjv.com
Tue Sep 14 10:17:41 PDT 2004


press any key to reboot  -oops- Enrique Arredondo said on Tue, Sep 14 09:30  

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walter Vaughan" <wvaughan at steelerubber.com>
> To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: fp on feebsd
> 

> >Enrique Arredondo wrote:
> >
> >>Do you know if I install the freebsd ver 5.13 on my server I can use my 
> >>second processor ? Would filepro for SCO unix work with no modifications 
> >>?

> >>Thanks

> >If you send fpTech a small fee (25%? IIRC), they'll send you a licensed
> >native freeBSD version of filePro. That version will run quite happy on
> >a dual processor system and appears to be happy if you enable
> >hyperthreading as well and give yourself 4 virtual processors.
> >
> >As Bill stated, you will want to run 4.10-Release FreeBSD as your OS.
> >The thing about freeBSD is that 4.10 will probably stay current with
> >security errata till at least the 2010's. My guess is that a huge
> >percentage of the web hosting companies in the world today will be
> >running 4.11 or later years from now.

> >On linux, a dual processor system with SCO binaries filePro
> >seems to lock on to one CPU, while on FreeBSD with native
> >binaries, filePro binaries have no qualms about jumping from
> >one CPU to the other. I have not tested native FreeBSD filePro
> >binaries on a dual processor freeBSD-5.3, which is supposed to
> >be the fastest SMP *nix when finished.

> >So to answer your second question... Yes if you are talking about your
> >application (data, processing tables), or I'm guessing not if you want
> >to run native SCO version of *clerk and *report programs on freeBSD
> >(things that count number of concurrent users typically failed).
> >--
> >Walter

> I installed the 5.3 just for testing purposes and it seems it's
> ready .

I've only been running BSD almost exclusively for 9 years and I
surely don't think 5.3 is ready. 

If you took the default install you now have a UFS2 file system -
which used 256 byte inodes and not 128 byte inodes.  If anything
uses those it will surely fail.

And probably everything desinged for SCO will not understand
the UFS2 filesystem. Though it is an extension of UFS - from which
the SCO AFFS, HTFS, et al descended from, there are major
differernces.

5.3 is going to be stable soon - within a few weeks at the most -
BUT many of the standard utilties aren't updated to handle
the extremes of 5.2.   

> I tried the SCO binary's and it fail catastrophically as
> expected (I couldn't resist not trying it). Is there a way of
> getting an evaluation version of filepro for FREEBSD so I try a
> couple of things before paying the big bucks ?

That is quite predicatable.  I suspect if your binaries were SCO
Unix and the FreeBSD was 4.10 or earlier it would run.  I've seen
it run on about a 4.8.  

> How do you normally shutdown FREEBSD ? I tried "shutdown -g0   
> -y" but didn't like it. So I pressed CTRL-ALT-DEL and it did   
> the forced shutdown automatically.                             

man shutdown would have told you.

Flags to shutdown are h, p, r, k, o, and n.

To restart    shutdown -r now|time

Now or time applies to all.

There are many differences between System V Unix systems
and BSD systems.  When I first moved to BSD it was like going back
to my first Unix like OS - as the BSD was almost identical
to Xenix 1.x from the old Radio Shack 16s - which mean you could
compile almost eveything by setting the program compile flags
to CSRG - Computer System Research Group - the people who developed
BSD.  By the time the 6000 came out and later versions of Xenix
for the 16, it was System III based and the commands were more
like those you'd see on SCO.

I'd really suggest getting rid of the 5.x as it is so different
from the past version that if you aren't familiar with the 4.x 
you may be hopelessly lost - at least for awhile.

It's 64-bits almost all the way.  Disk limits are far beyond
anything you can assemble today.   That means a file
size is 2^72 - which is 2^64 blocks * 512 bytes block.

But many things are still 32 bit mode - so fsck fails at
2TB. du and df have some problems.  All of this from a document
dated jsut 4 days ago.

Put in the 4.10 and so as Walter suggests - upgrade.  However
do try your SCO on the 4.10.  The chance are good that it will
work.

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com


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