chicken and egg (was Re: Augury and ...)

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Y'all catch dis heeyah?  Ron Kracht been jivin' 'bout like:
> I should have know that in this hotbed of literalists(sp?) this was 
> going to happen. You both focused on the words, or the inconsequential 
> order of the words, and missed the idea. There does not have to be a 
> 'first' - it is possible for some events to happen in such tiny 
> increments that there may never be a point where you can say 'what we 
> had yesterday was not an egg but this thing we have today, now this is 
> an egg" or "that was not a chicken and this is a chicken".  Disclaimer: 
> 'chicken' and 'egg'  are not meant to taken literally but are 
> representatives of a type.

I'm more than willing to go theoretical with it, but I fail to be able to
agree with you at this point in time.

Given fine enough granularity, at any given point, a comparison may be
drawn between A and B, which were previously the same at one moment in
granularity, and which were then different at the next point of
granularity.  The granularity might span a few picoseconds, or it might span
days, depending on what changed to and from what state(s).

The only frame of reference I can imagine this -not- being true concerns
false perceptions, where A and B are truly alike, but people claim they're
not until presented with proof to the contrary, and suddenly for one group
of people there's been a change, even though nothing has ever changed.

> I'm fighting the temptation to give more examples, perhaps one involving 
> the discussion of a concept and understanding of that concept, but I'm 
> afraid that once again the focus would be on nitpicking the example and 
> missing the idea.

I think an example would certainly help, as I'm having trouble accepting
your premise without one.  I'm not usually unimaginative, but I'm either
missing your point entirely, or being a dullard on this particular issue.
Toss me a bone, here.

We're -not- heading back to "'eq' not really meaning equals" are we?!  :)

mark->
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