OT: Linux flavors...

[brian at aljex.com]

Quoting Fairlight <fairlite at fairlite.com>:

> On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 02:53:21AM -0400, brian at aljex.com, the prominent
> pundit,
> witicized:
> >
> > Of course, but that's easier said than done there pastor Mark. :)
>
> I generally don't have a problem, if people -listen-.  :)  This presumes
> that they research or ask in advance in the first place, of course.
>
> > in freebsd) and I certainly knew about better supported cards when I
> > baught it.
>
> Well whose fault is that, then?  :)
>
> > So much else about the machine is desirable, and unique, that in the real
> > world you just have to accept the realtek nic and the broadcom wi-fi and
> > the conexant winmodem. I mean, use a cardbus card that sticks out and
> > must be shipped/unshipped every time you pull the machine out, when there
> > is a great card with outstanding antenna built-in? Forget it!
>
> Realtek?  I could have sworn I've seen sources that say they're quite
> possibly THE worst NICs made.  I thought the FBSD world shunned them for
> precisely that reason.
>
> And the machine is desirable?  'PITA to admin' ne 'desirable', IMHO.
>
> > Of course you should be aware of compatibility issues and at least try
> > to head them off difficulties if it's possible by simply choosing a
> > different machine at buy-time, but don't make it sound like it's just a
> > simple matter of a little forethought.
>
> It -is- though.  You have a machine specification present.  If it's not
> compatible with what drivers you have to work with, without going with
> proprietary drivers, the solution -is- as simple as not buying it, and
> instead getting something that -does- fit reasonable standards.  How is
> that at all complicated?

*sigh*
I said that "so much else about the machine is desireable and unique"
If I said it, especially when it's something subjective like that, it's
customary to proceed from the position that the statement is true unless
further developments prove otherwise. It's called benefit of the doubt.
What is so hard to understand about THAT? And in this case, since the statement
is based on a subjective point, even if I were to list all the features and
design points and and we disagreed on the desirability of each, that would
still not make the argument invalid. They add up to being more desireable than
the negative points are undesireable _to me_.

In short, it's a laptop, everything is permanently built-in. It has xyz bag of
parts all welded in a single unit and if you want x and y then you just have to
accept z.

Sheesh.



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