Quoting (was Re: Why?)

[Bill Vermillion]

On Sat, Jul 03 00:28 , Ray Scheel gie sprachen "Vyizdur zomen 
emororz izaziz zander izorziz", and continued with: 

> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:45:50 -0400, Bill Vermillion wrote
> > Well considering the comments were about top-posting and many of
> > those posts have 50-75 lines following the fresh paragraph
> > pageing makes more sense.

> If someone goes a full screen down when posting inline without
> deleting 85%+ of the lines, then there is *another* issue with
> proper posting form. Last I checked the rule was to assume the
> other readers had a short term memory well developed enough to
> follow without *all* the conversation being parroted back 20-30
> times.

The standard for posting since the mid-80s have been to trim
the post and reply to the relevant material.  It seems so many
think they need to include everything.

Some people trim more than they should and that makes the post
useless.  

See  RFC1855  for full details.  But here are just a few
selected lines from that RFC. 


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    - Do not include control characters or non-ASCII attachments in
      messages unless they are MIME attachments or unless your mailer
      encodes these.  If you send encoded messages make sure the
      recipient can decode them.

    - Be brief without being overly terse.  When replying to a message,
      include enough original material to be understood but no more. It
      is extremely bad form to simply reply to a message by including
      all the previous message: edit out all the irrelevant material.

    - Limit line length to fewer than 65 characters and end a line
      with a carriage return.

    - Mail should have a subject heading which reflects
      the content of the message.


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And for those who wonder about posting in text vs HTML, 
Microsoft STRONGLY RECOMMENDS that you use text only.

That was their recommendation last week because of all the problems
that HTML reading and posting causes.

Here is a clipped part of that announcment from the MS announcement
on how to protect you computer.  Following it using these steps
will also allow those who have been having trouble figuring how
to make their aps post in text only to do this easily folloing the
recipe given.

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Step 3: Read E-Mail Messages in Plain Text

   To help increase your e-mail security, set Outlook or Outlook Express
   to read all messages you receive as plain text, rather than HTML.

   To read messages in plain text in Outlook Express:

   1.

   On the Outlook Express Tools menu, click Options.

   2.

   In the Options dialog box, click the Read tab.

   3.

   Select the checkbox to Read all messages in plain text.

   4.

   Click OK.

   To read messages in plain text in Outlook:

   1.

   On the Outlook Tools menu, click Options.

   2.

   On the Preferences tab in the Options dialog box, click the E-Mail
   Options button.

   3.

   In the E-Mail Options dialog box, select the checkbox to Read all
   standard mail in plain text.

   4.

   Click OK to close the E-Mail Options dialog box, and then click OK to
   close the Options dialog box.
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Step 4: Block Pop-Up Windows in Your Browser

   To help protect your computer from malicious pop-up windows in your
   browser, use a utility that prevents them from opening. Some Web sites
   use these small browser windows to display advertisements, and in some
   cases, offensive content. Malicious attackers also may use pop-up
   windows disguised as ads or offers to install malicious code on your
   computer.

   A popup blocker is a utility you can add to your browser that prevents
   these windows from opening. Many pop-up blockers are compatible with
   Internet Explorer, including the free MSN toolbar.
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   Download the free MSN toolbar
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Hope this helps.

Bill
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