Quoting (was Re: Why?)

[Bill Vermillion]

Fairlight, the prominent pundit, on Fri, Jul 02 20:02  while half 
mumbling half-witicized: 

> Only Bill Vermillion would say something like:

> > Nothing wrong with down arrow - but page down is usually
> > faster.
>
> Well yeah, if you have to move whole screens. If you only have
> to move 5 lines, it doesn't do you much good when intertwining
> reply points. That's my point.

Well considering the comments were about top-posting and many of
those posts have 50-75 lines following the fresh paragraph
pageing makes more sense.


> > And I don't use the 'j' in vi for down or 'k' for up when I have to
> > go more than a few lines - full paging with Control-F or Control-B
> > is much faster, even when you are on a fast DSL, when you are doing
> > things remotely.

> So do I, but see above.  I was referring to something else entirely.  

That was not clear. My page-up/down also work in vi besides the 
control-F/B

> > I fell into the habit of paging from the days of using terminals
> > watching people just hold down the arrow key and watching the
> > terminal repaint line by line, when a page was must faster.

> And if you do curses wrong, it still can be. There's a way to
> make it reverse scroll that's actually fast. Then there's a
> method where you remove the top line, repaint the whole thing,
> and append a bottom line. And you do the reverse when scrolling
> the opposite way. It works, but it's slow. Unfortunately,
> before ncurses, some platforms used to do the fast method
> incorrectly, so my old, old chat client is coded the slower
> way. It works, but it's not optimal. It's also not worth
> rewriting. :)

Re-writing things for places you go into occasionly isn't very
productive if someone else comes in reloads/changes things.
Staying with stock distributions never hurts.

> > And to be sure I wasn't losing my mind, I just went in remotely
> > via DSL [I'm at 1.5Mb] and it's still faster with control-F than it
> > is with 'j'.

> > Try it - you'll like it :-)

> I -use- it. But that won't put your cursor midway through a
> paragraph or between two of them to reply to a point. That was
> the specific thing I was taking about when I said what I did.

You did not make that clear.  You just said whats wroing with
j,k, or other key strokes.


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