AOL sender filters

[Bill Campbell]

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004, Bill Vermillion wrote:
>On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 11:29:51AM -0800, Bill Campbell thus
>spoke:
>
>> I'm getting more than a bit tired of seeing messages like this
>> in my postmaster mailbox every day. I get enough messages to
>> deal with without having to see who some members don't like.
>
>> These bounces come from AOL's mail filters. I don't use AOL
>> so don't know how these work so can't say whether there's an
>> option to turn the bounce notices off, but if there isn't I
>> would suggest that the AOL users who don't want to read mail
>> from list members learn to JHD (Just Hit Delete), and remove
>> the filters.
>
>> I'm about ready to take these bounce messages as an indication
>> that the person doesn't want to receive mail from the Filepro
>> list at all, and remove their subscription.
>
>To me that seems like a reasonable move, and then they can
>re-subscribe from a system that won't have that problem  I had one
>domain that was such a serious spam attractant, that I had the
>people who had the website change the mails for that domian to
>another account, and had them put the names in graphics.  Then I
>shut down all MX records for that domains.

In spite of our e-mail filters, spamassassin, etc. when I opened
my general mailbox this morning, I found 30 of 32 new messages
was spam that had gotten by the filters.  This mailbox isn't as
well-protected as the mailing lists, but it's pretty bad.

...
>The other solution might be to configure your digestifier so that
>replies go to the list by default when you make a reply, instead of
>going to the user who sent it.   

I'll never set the Reply-To to go back to the list because (a) I think that
posting a message to a few hundred people should require a bit of effort,
and (b) I've seen far too many cases where mail went to a mailing list that
was supposed to be a personal reply to the sender, and not for public
consumption.

Chip Rosenthal covers all the bases here:

	http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

>I recall that you had a reaon for replies to be sent to the
>originator by default and not back to the list, but I don't recall
>what it was.   Many of the lists I subscribe to default to repling
>to the list.

Just because many lists do it doesn't make it right.

Bill
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