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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is so well said. I am
forwarding this to PRA and telling them we are in full support of the </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Alliance</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Add our organization to the list.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Preston Drew</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> capr-discussion-bounces@lists.celestial.com
[mailto:capr-discussion-bounces@lists.celestial.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jack Venrick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 08, 2005
1:02 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DISCUSSION LIST CAPR;
WaterRightsOlymicPennsGroup<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Capr-discussion] NOW WE
ARE TALKING</span></font></p>
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WE ARE TALKING! ...</span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font
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see Preston's point and emails below.</span></font></b></strong></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=3
face="Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"'>Combining
our property rights cause with other strong supportive and synergetic
groups especially groups that gather media attention plus
garner sympathy and support of the masses will energize our stand enormously!</span></font></b></strong></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=3
face="Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"'>We
desperately need the support of the urban property owners enmasse and the Kelo
New London decision has created a create opportunity out of a national disaster
. Intellectual property rights would further pull in more urban support.
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=3
face="Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"'>Unfortunately
this has become a political party card, i.e. taking property rights vs. giving
government/environmental more rights. My take on the recent elections
here in King County show that people are loath to vote for a party not their
own even if it means the rural property owners are suffering. I heard the
Democrats were furious that the Republicans did not join them on the Critical
Area Ordinance vote? If this is so, that tells me that the Republicans or
enough of them were enticed to vote for it in prior forms. Your
private property rights or for that matter any personal rights and freedoms are
becoming a political foot ball. That is to say our fundamental
constitutional rights are being parlayed to the highest bidder in congress,
the courts, the county councils, the city councils, the unincorporated area
councils, you name it; your rights are up for grab by the strongest political
group! </span></font></b></strong></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=3
face="Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"'>As
long as fundamental issues such as property rights or any basic rights and
freedom are not held to a constitutional standard or a higher
standard (GOD) this nation will fall as all those civilizations in history have
when they loose their standard on right and wrong. Freedom and liberty
are not relative. You either have them or you don't. I strongly
believe we are being shaken to the core in this country and around the world to
force "US" to take a stand on what that standard will become.
The standard was there before and over the last 30 plus years freedom and
liberty has suffered a slow creeping erosion to the near death state we
are in. Property owners are sadly one of the few groups that can see this
because they have had the personal experience.</span></font></b></strong></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=3
face="Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"'>When
the people rise up and demand that both sides of the aisle including any
party stand firm on the basic constitutional and God given rights this
great nation has been blessed with, then there will be a great positive shift.
When you see basic rights being split up by the government and non government
organizations (NGO), you know for sure we have lost our way. Once we
rise above the political shark pool with the sovereignty of the people and
our basic freedoms and liberties, then you know their has been a
great shift back to the basics.</span></font></b></strong></p>
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face="Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"'>This
package below would help us create allies where there was no awareness or
concern from government takings from rural property owners before. There
is no greater stimulus than having the personal experience of the government or
the environmentalist or the UN or any foreign power taking away your personal
freedom and liberty. Unfortunately each of us in some way has to
experience a personal loss before being catalyzed into action. In a
masochist way, it seems the critical mass of this country's private property
owners need to be taken away to the extent they are able to have some experience
or at least through a friend or relative who has had a horror story with the
likes of King County DDES. It has to get worse before it gets
better and this is definitely happening around the United States and especially
in and around large cities and counties. </span></font></b></strong></p>
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face="Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Adobe Caslon Pro Bold"'>So
many people are on the fence and have a thousand reasons not to act and
this apathy is taken advantage of by aggressive government agencies
and selfish politicians only interested in perpetuating their jobs and selfish
groups who plan on what they can take from you to perpetuate their
agenda. All of this behavior is about greed and power
including taking peoples power away from them and not about freedom and
liberty and empowering the people.</span></font></b></strong></p>
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Venrick</span></font></b></strong></p>
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WA</span></font></b></strong> </p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:pgdrew@centurytel.net" title="pgdrew@centurytel.net">Preston Drew</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:CAPR-discussion@lists.celestial.com"
title="CAPR-discussion@lists.celestial.com">CAPR-discussion@lists.celestial.com</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
December 08, 2005 5:32 AM</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
[Capr-discussion] Interesting property rights addition;Intellectual property
rights</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Property Rights
Alliance adds intellectual property to the fight.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If rural property owners
with their issues can unite with suburban/urban property owners with their
issues (Kelo) and then add those interested in intellectual property rights, we
could be an unstoppable force.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Preston</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Scott A. LaGanga
[mailto:slaganga@propertyrightsalliance.org] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 07, 2005
3:32 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Jim Prencipe'; 'Chuck
Cushman'; 'David Ridenour'; 'Peyton Knight'; AASPO@aol.com;
pgdrew@centurytel.net; 'Dunlop, Becky Norton'; 'Myron Ebell'; Andrew M. Langer<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Joint IP/Physical
Property Rights Eminent Domain Coalition Letter</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Friends,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Could you please take a look at this
and ensure that this is something the property rights folks could sign on to
without a problem. This will be the quintessential property rights link
for the IP and physical rights community to sign on to and the press will love
it. Each organization’s logo will go across the top and then
signatures will be placed at the bottom.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Let me know any major qualms as I
want to move this out as soon as possible to organizations ranging from
automakers and bio firms to land rights and homebuilders for sign-on. I
already have support from folks in the IP community to sign onto the
letter. I would like to release this letter Friday to all organizations
to begin to sign-on. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Thank you to all of
you who have done a tremendous job in leading the property rights charge.</span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Note: a TESRA coalition letter PRA
has worked on with the help of our friends at the National Center will also be
sent out this week to interested parties in order for us to send a broad
coalition letter to the Senate. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Scott </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black"'>Scott A. LaGanga</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Executive Director<br>
<em><i><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Property Rights
Alliance (PRA)</span></font></i></em></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1920 L Street, NW Suite 200</span></font></i></em></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><em><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Washington, DC 20036</span></font></i></em></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><em><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>202-390-6978</span></font></i></em><i><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:
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</span></font></i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><a href="mailto:slaganga@a"></a><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><a href="mailto:slaganga@propertyrightsalliance.org">slaganga@propertyrightsalliance.org</a></span></font></span></font></p>
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href="http://www.propertyrightsalliance.org">www.propertyrightsalliance.org</a></span></font></p>
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